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i could be wrong but don't think it'll be on your navionics chip. Lots of maps for restoule available once you get there (general store). I have never seen one for stormy/clear.

Johnny -- i fish beaches.....natural ones. I don't fish swimming areas, whether there's a likelihood of snagging or not. I know i'm not going to leave a lure on the beach (esp. with 80 lb test), but the guy watching from his cottage doesn't know that so it could be ruining his morning a bit to worry about his kids getting stuck with left-behind-lures ......to me there's no point bothering anyone, whether i'm legally entitled to it or not. Lots of water and natural structure to fish.

I tend to agree with everything Radnine has said. And, you seem to be throwing all cottageowners who don't like people fishing their cosk into the same bucket as the few who have been hot-heads with you. I think that'd be like lumping all fishermen into the bucket of those who have trolled by or casted to my dock while its occupied, or even worse - when people are swimming off it. As for the beach -- i just won't fish them, regardless of time of day. I dont care if others do it.....if its someone's swimming beach, its not for fishing regardless of the likelihood of a snag. btw - i'm also not on the kawartha lakes. Maybe its different there (higher concentration of docks, whereas my lake seems to be 2/3 uninhabited, and likely 80-90% at our end of the lake)....but i have to think there's a lot of structure available without fishing docks.

natural coloured baits, and faster retrieves.

Johnny -- i think if you're on a lake where the shoreline is monopolized with cottages, then obviously you're going to fish in front of "someone's" place if you want to be near the shoreline. On the other hand, if there's lots of shoreline aside from the cottages, why not just go there instead? I mean, is a bass under someone's dock *that* valuable to you? If there were no docks would you give up fishing? I don't fish docks, and i catch a ton.....have a lot of fun doing it, and am not irritating anyone by doing it. Here's an example for you -- one of the cottages on my lake has a little beachthat i know just has to hold musky early in the season when they're looking to warm up. Even though i know it has to hold fish, and i'm legally in the right to do it (its public water, not owned by the cottage owner) i just won't fish it. I know that with my 80 lb test there's no way i'm goign to lose a lure in there for a kid to get hooked on........but the fact i'm going to be irritating (or worrying) that cottage owner makes me ignore that spot and fish somewhere else. Assuming you'd fish it?

Don't think this thread is about legal rights, but what's rude and not rude.

yeah but i still think paparazzis should find something more noble to do with their lives. Like i said, 90+ % of people (including me) aren't going to say anything. Doesn't mean you're not being rude. B

Also "legal" for paparazzis to follow celebrities around or park out in front of their house at the hope of catching a picture. Sometimes being "legal" doesn't make something right. I love fishing, love the structure offered by docks, but i won't ever fish other cottager's docks. I suspect most of those who own cottages (and many who don't) feel the same way. And, just remember -- for every hothead cottager who actually comes down and acts like an ass yelling at you (which i also don't agree with) there are 10 non-hotheads who just shake their head and think "another jerk fisherman".

Love my toyota highlander. Has 3 rows, though not sure you'd want to put a seat in the back row. Also, a heads up that while MDX has 3 rows the 3rd is for midgets, and virtually impossible to access with child seats in teh 2nd row. I'd look at pilot, highlander,or even a hyundai veracruz. Good size, and suspect they lose value fast so price may be right.

voted. smart daughter, btw.

Unless you're up north where the water is cool year round, you need deep water for big pike.

I have a deductible but did not have to pay it when someone hit me and was at fault. Insurance company took it from him. That was quite a few years ago (probably 10?) but assume its the same today?

For what its worth, we saw them from just SW of North Bay on tues night.

Ridiculous. Wow. That is one hell of a fishing trip. Good for you guys.

I'm pretty sure most of us who own cottages don't fish docks. We know how irritating it can be from the other perspective. I also agree its the few who ruin it for everyone else. Craig (i think) has it right....you're sitting on your dock having a cup of coffee and there are lures bouncing off your feet. Makes no sense to me. I've had people come trolling by while swimming (even did a cannonball off the dock and managed to splash the people in their boat). To me its simple - treat the dock with the same respect as you would a boat in the middle of the lake. I know i wouldn't pull up beside a boat in the middle of the lake and start casting around it. To me its exactly the same thing. May be different on my lake - 10 miles long, a mile across, and 2/3 uninhabited (probably 80% where my cottage is).......so to me it seems ridiculous that someone needs to fish my dock. And charlesn.....that would work in concept....but can't we have both happy fishermen and happy cottagers? Why is your happiness more important than theirs?

There's no excuse for casting near it in the first place. Yes, boats and docks hold bass. But there's lots of lake for everyone.

Completely agree with him. Some people need to learn some manners.

Reminded me of this poor guy - fastforward to 1:18 or so.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMCFRElyaCc&feature=related

Yep - tiger for sure. Beautiful fish. Striking colours. I know it wouldn't make a biologist happy, but i wish they were more common....would really love to catch one, or at least see one in person.

According to the Toronto Star, most of us will be paying $480 more by 2012. This may be disguised as an economy-booster, but make no mistake -- its a tax grab, and a BIG one. Also funny that you're going to be taxed on the cheque that you received today. Talk about a bait and switch.

1 - i don't like being taxed more than i already am. 2 - i fear what it'll do to the economy. People will hold their wallets tighter and buy/spend less. It may be incrementally less....but it will be less. All he'll accomplish is taking a higher % of a smaller consumer-economy. Way to go, Dalton.

I haven't showed up to vote in 15 yrs.......but i can tell you i will DEFINITELY be showing up to vote for anyone other than McGuinty in the next election. WHAT A CROCK

If you're catching pike and bass you're likely too shallow. How deep is the thermocline? I bet the lakers are there...

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