manitoubass2 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Anyhow kudos to all those helping with gas, food, medication etc to get those folks outta dodge! I hate to see such a tragedy but good ol canadians step right up and help their fellow man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 It's full board safety mode 1440 minutes a day Rick, but I know what you mean. It's referred to as "an elevation of awareness" I called it Defcon 5. Yep. I just mean it goes to a crazy level lol. The amount of safety that goes into these sights is utterly astounding. But H2S is so deadly, those rig rats go off and people are jumping off 30-60ft drops if they have too. Better chance of survival falling that height than H2S exposure. I know its not there yet, but this will be a major hurdle in rebuilding fort mac. You cant even dig in alberta without the prispect of encountering H2S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Anyhow kudos to all those helping with gas, food, medication etc to get those folks outta dodge! I hate to see such a tragedy but good ol canadians step right up and help their fellow man? Canadians RULE!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) We all can help. Go into any bank and pass them a 10, 5, toonie or even a loonie for the Red Cross. It all adds up. I heard myself say to my wife today, our tax dollars are being used up there, then I slapped myself and went into a bank and donated. Well wishes and prayers help but money works immediately. Yep. I just mean it goes to a crazy level lol. The amount of safety that goes into these sights is utterly astounding. But H2S is so deadly, those rig rats go off and people are jumping off 30-60ft drops if they have too. Better chance of survival falling that height than H2S exposure. I know its not there yet, but this will be a major hurdle in rebuilding fort mac. You cant even dig in alberta without the prispect of encountering H2S I would suggest to Management Rick that if they have workers exposed to deadly gases and are in a position to egress only by jumping 60 feet to the ground you have a huge problem and a simple solution. It's called a Scott Air Pac. For egress situations they sell 5 minute Scott Air Pacs specifically designed for short term use for immediate egress in a toxic gas environment. They are only the size of a small propane bottle and weigh hardly anything. Hear the alarm, don the SAP and calmly egress the area to safety. I'll split the bonus with you. Where do you work, Iran? They wear sandals while casting molten metal and a wet rag across their faces is a resperator. Not all plants, some. If they need a Health&Safety consultant give them my email address, I ain't cheap though. edit: I wrote India by mistake, India has impressive plants. That's where Arcilor Mittal originated. All the bells and whistles. Iran, well, it's Iran. Hi tech and zero safety measures. Edited May 6, 2016 by Old Ironmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Canadians RULE!!!!! Yes sir!!!! Many of my friends and old co workers or out there now assisting in any way they can. My hats off to all those kind souls. Trudeau better step up quick and realize the sevarity. Citizens are making the government look like idiots(once again) Canadians are awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 I watched Jr's press conference this morning. He said all the right things. Now send the resources they need, be it money, fire fighters, military, whatever. Just do it. He should have had his ass there yesterday but I'm sure his people told him it's not safe, maybe. Nothing wrong with being south of the city and talking to the exodus of citizens on the highway. Take a lesson from Bush Jr's mistake of being late to New Orleans and see the loss from the ground not in a chopper a mile above. As soon as boots are on the ground in the city his should be 2 of them. No, he should be there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Canadians RULE!!!!! That is a wonderful gesture. The governments of Alberta as well as our Feds should be paying for all the gas needed by the refugees of McMurry. As well as food, water and shelter. A family pulls up in a car heading south from the city with only the shirts on their backs who do you think they are? The Griswald's going to Vegas? I don't remember to whom but read before the fire started the Fed's just earmarked 500K to a country for such an important reason I don't remember to whom or why? I hope this thread doesn't go political so I'm thinking about not posting this. It probably will anyway as soon as we know everyone is safe. Countdown to Syrian refugee comparisons, it's inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Frig, not to take away from fort mac but now we have a pretty large fire on the ontario/manitoba boarder Heavy winds have travelled the smoke here and shes purdy thick! Also, you guys see westjet was helping fly people outta fort mac and air canada flight went from $600 to $4300 over night to get outta fort mac??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Also, you guys see westjet was helping fly people outta fort mac and air canada flight went from $600 to $4300 over night to get outta fort mac??? Yep, Westjet was flying people out for free and flew out all of the patients from the hospital too. Have hated AC for a long time and I refuse to fly with them. I'll walk before getting on one of their planes!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 One of our water bombers and a spotter plane are down there and the rest of the fleet ready if requested. The govt also gave $50,000 to the red cross. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/nwt-water-bombers-fort-mcmurray-1.3570887 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 Apparently Westjet is also letting people to bring their pets onboard with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 Apparently Westjet is also letting people to bring their pets onboard with them. ??? And many companies are continuing payment of employees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 Apparently Westjet is also letting people to bring their pets onboard with them. Yep!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 On top of all the awful things these people have to, and are going through, I couldn't imagine having to leave a dog behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wormdunker Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 That's awesome! Thanx for posting that Rick. I'm a construction worker for many years. Laborer, carpenter, concrete foreman, site superintendent, now crane operator. I'm having a hard time to understand how they will ever rebuild the city. The oil companies have their work camps north of the city for their workers but with the loss of many homes where will the people live who are going to perform work needed to construct the new homes/buildings? It's mindboggling!! Fort Mac is a very remote city. Unlike southern Ontario,- for example if you lived in Kitchener & a major work project was required in Mississauga or Vaughan or even Whitby it's a short commute. Once you leave Fort Mac (heading north or south) there is nothing but bush for many, many miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 That's awesome! Thanx for posting that Rick. I'm a construction worker for many years. Laborer, carpenter, concrete foreman, site superintendent, now crane operator. I'm having a hard time to understand how they will ever rebuild the city. The oil companies have their work camps north of the city for their workers but with the loss of many homes where will the people live who are going to perform work needed to construct the new homes/buildings? It's mindboggling!! Fort Mac is a very remote city. Unlike southern Ontario,- for example if you lived in Kitchener & a major work project was required in Mississauga or Vaughan or even Whitby it's a short commute. Once you leave Fort Mac (heading north or south) there is nothing but bush for many, many miles. No prob. Everyone hates oil/gas etc until they realize they cannot live without it. Im not gonna lie, these companies do some bad crap. But they also do some amazing things Ying and yang i suppose. But my word should be taken with a grain of salt. I left 7 years ago and have no idea what has changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam lancia Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 The scariest thing for me is seeing the size of the fire overlaid on maps of Toronto, Edmonton, L.A. and New York! It's the size of the GTA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishermccann Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 If there is no work in the area , why rebuild in the middle of nowhere, unless it is a reserve of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 Well the winds have shifted and we are starting to get Ft. Mac's smoke here in Yellowknife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 Lost a water bomber today. Captain had a medical issue while in the circuit to land and the FO tanked the landing, no pun intended but she's not flying again anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Some pretty nasty images from Ft. Mac Not much left of this guys snowmobile. Here's a bunch more pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Wow! Looks like a nuclear bomb went off Horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pics Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 My step brother is on his way up there from Calgary to spell off some of the firefighters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/05/10/calgary-pilot-breaks-rules-flies-displaced-fort-mcmurray-animals-to-shelters.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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