wormdunker Posted July 19, 2015 Report Posted July 19, 2015 I'm searching options to either add a chart plotter to my boat or download Navionics to my Ipad. I've been told I can download Navionics to my ipad that has greater detail than the app on my iPhone. Cost is $70.00. 1 or 2 problems I see is I would now need a holder to mount my ipad, also keep it safe from the elements (zip lock bag?). Do Ipads float?? LOL! Also the ipad is going to turn off & I'd have to restart it continually (this will be annoying). In my search I found a Humminbird Helix for $510.00 which has Navionics chip included. Navionics gold card is $300.00 at BPS, $260.00 at Grimsby Tackle. So I get the Helix for $250.00 Sounds like a good deal. I'm favouring the Helix along side my Humminbird 798 HD ci. I find the 798 on split screen is too small. All comments & recommendations are greatly appreciated. PS - I'm an older angler. Suggestions from the younger tech savvy fisher people would be awesome. Thanx
manitoubass2 Posted July 19, 2015 Report Posted July 19, 2015 DO NOT USE AN IPAD FOR FISHING I too have navionics on my ipad and galaxy phone but its only used at home for planning
Canuck2fan Posted July 19, 2015 Report Posted July 19, 2015 The only way I would EVER consider taking a tablet fishing for use with sonar, or GPS would be to find a very inexpensive android tablet... You can with a bit of searching get them for under 50.00 with bluetooth at stores that sell refurbs or on kijiji. I would then keep it in a ziplock bag sealed all the time. Just make sure the tablet is running the minimum OS and has the hardware to run the program... I have seen too many friends who can't put the phone away while fishing have to cough up the coin to get a new one when theirs goes swimming, which phones don't do that well LOL.
Canuck Posted July 19, 2015 Report Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) I have Navionics on my iPAD and iPhone and I take them on the boat all the time. I even took the iPAD out on a boat rental in Florida running in Pine Island sound. I probably should get a waterproof case for the iPAD though. Bouncing around in FLA I was a bit nervous about it. I have a basic kind of flimsy mount for the iPAD. A RAM mount would be better. Pros: you can plan out trips on shore and bring it with you on the water. You can mark waypoints and look at them at home to see what similarities there are and pick you next spots for the next trip. It works well for tracking routes and where you are.Screen refresh is fast, better than my Raymarine chart plotter from a few years ago. Simple to use. Cons: Screen on iPAD is not bright enough for bright sunlight. OK if you have a bimini though. For Florida I made a temporary sun shield with some cardboard because the bimini did not shade enough. It worked OK. Need to have power source on (uses lots of battery power on full bright and with GPS running) Not waterproof. Bottom line is its a great addition to a chartplotter, but I don't think I would want it as my only navigation device. Edited July 19, 2015 by Canuck
Canuck Posted July 19, 2015 Report Posted July 19, 2015 FYI, the iPAD and iPhone have a setting that keeps the screen from auto-locking while tracking. Its in the "Menu" section and its called "Auto-Lock"
wormdunker Posted July 20, 2015 Author Report Posted July 20, 2015 Thanx for the comments/ suggestions. I never thought about the bright sun on the ipad for a good view. Also, is the heat of the sun going to damage it? The fish finders & chart plotters are designed for this kind of working environment.
Freshtrax Posted July 20, 2015 Report Posted July 20, 2015 I take my iPad in my boat every outing. I run navionics....save your money I just installed the iPhone version for 15 bucks works fine.
Raycaster Posted July 20, 2015 Report Posted July 20, 2015 I love using Navionics on my cheap 10" Tablet especially with the real time fish-sonar mapping option. I think the real cost is actually closer to $200 now that Navionics forces paid customers to close AD windows after Ad windows blocking the actual maps! Basically $60 just gets you an ad filled map app that will only go away after you purchase all the other map options. Paying for the app twice (original owners know what I mean) is one thing but the unwanted ads are sleezy.
Freshtrax Posted July 21, 2015 Report Posted July 21, 2015 I have no ads on the iPad our our aced years ago... I only have the iPhone version but run it on the iPad.
wormdunker Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Posted July 21, 2015 Thanx for the replies guys. I also have the iPhone version of Navionics but it lacks the detail I desire. I was at BPS yesterday looking at the Humminbird Matrix with the Navionics + card. As mentioned in my first post I already have a Humminbird 798 HD ci which I use for sonar, side scan & down image & GPS. My intention is to use the Matrix for chart plotter only. If I have a need for a bow mount transducer in the future I'll have that capability in the Matrix. Grimsby Tackle $510.00 for the Matrix & includes the Navionics + card. 1/2 the cost of my 798. That sounds reasonable to me.
porkpie Posted July 21, 2015 Report Posted July 21, 2015 Decent tablet, $170, navionics $60, waterproof case, $100, ram mount if your so inclined $50-100 depending on what mounting options you already own. Me, I'd go with a second unit, or sell the unit I already have and go to a bigger screen . I have a 7 inch sonar/plotter and I find this just right for split screen. I'm sure a bigger screen would be even nicer but I haven't had a problem following a contour and using my sonar at the same time as of yet.
Sterling Posted July 21, 2015 Report Posted July 21, 2015 I'm searching options to either add a chart plotter to my boat or download Navionics to my Ipad. I've been told I can download Navionics to my ipad that has greater detail than the app on my iPhone. Cost is $70.00. 1 or 2 problems I see is I would now need a holder to mount my ipad, also keep it safe from the elements (zip lock bag?). Do Ipads float?? LOL! Also the ipad is going to turn off & I'd have to restart it continually (this will be annoying). In my search I found a Humminbird Helix for $510.00 which has Navionics chip included. Navionics gold card is $300.00 at BPS, $260.00 at Grimsby Tackle. So I get the Helix for $250.00 Sounds like a good deal. I'm favouring the Helix along side my Humminbird 798 HD ci. I find the 798 on split screen is too small. All comments & recommendations are greatly appreciated. PS - I'm an older angler. Suggestions from the younger tech savvy fisher people would be awesome. Thanx Pretty sure the app would keep the ipad from shutting the screen off? Navionics on ipad does have other advantages. If you get a t-box, you can plot charts on the fly. It's the only way to do it, unless you spend $1500 (minimum) on an onix.
Sterling Posted July 21, 2015 Report Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) I love using Navionics on my cheap 10" Tablet especially with the real time fish-sonar mapping option. I think the real cost is actually closer to $200 now that Navionics forces paid customers to close AD windows after Ad windows blocking the actual maps! Basically $60 just gets you an ad filled map app that will only go away after you purchase all the other map options. Paying for the app twice (original owners know what I mean) is one thing but the unwanted ads are sleezy. Turn off mobile data and you won't get ads! Edit: in theory. I do this with all my other apps and it disables them. Edited July 21, 2015 by Sterling
wormdunker Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Posted July 21, 2015 Thanx again. What Porkpie states makes sense to me. Add up the extras for an ipad mount & other goodies it gets near the price of a new unit. Having the second unit is what I desire.
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