LNSA_ Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 They're at it again! It's not just commercial netting, but wasteful irresponsible personal gill netting of a species at risk on Lake Nipissing! Check this story out. Weekly, we seem to be getting these news flashes. Would somebody in the govt. please recognize this and DO SOMETHING!!? http://www.baytoday.ca/content/news/details.asp?c=79605
curlrap Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 And that's one of the reasons I can't sign the petition.
Spanky80 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) I thought that the purpose of the petition was for ALL stakeholders to finally work together for the common goal of a better walleye fishery on Lake Nipissing? When some folks pointed out that while the petition was a great idea and threw their support behind you, they were admonished by you for saying that they doubted the "natives" would listen...now here we are with a post about wasteful netting... Ya, I know, maybe it wasn't "natives" that are responsible for this. Maybe I will win LottoMax this Friday too Edited June 10, 2015 by Spanky
Rod Caster Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 If they went to the Gov Dock, they should be on camera, no?
wkrp Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 Watch Judge Judy sometimes and you will soon find out how stupid people can be and are.There is more of them out there than you can imagine. Rant over and out!
curlrap Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 The article states that the fish were too ripe to keep. So this net wasn't attended to quick enough therefore the person who owns it should be held accountable which isn't happening.
curlrap Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 I also have a couple questions for LNSA. Does NFN have their own restocking program and do they help you guys financially with your efforts. In my opinion you guys are supplying them the fish and that is just as bad as the people buying it from them. I'm sure this is the reason the MNR are given you a hard time, they just don't have the balls to say so.
Steve Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 "towards" the government dock - not likely to the government dock. If you recall, the last set of ghost nets (located back in 2014) were found in the same area. http://www.nugget.ca/2014/06/23/third-ghost-net-found-in-lake-nipissing A third ghost net full of fish was found floating in Lake Nipissing between the government dock and Manitou Islands. The discovery was made Friday. Witnesses told The Nugget the yellow net was full of various species of dead fish and was put into the back of a MNR conservation truck at the North Bay Waterfront Friday afternoon. Jolanta Kowalski, senior media relations officer with the Ministry of Natural Resources said “the MNR did receive a report Friday of another ghost net with dead fish in the same area as the first one.” “This is the third such net found this season. Our enforcement officials continue to investigate.” Kowalski wouldn't comment on the cause of the free-floating nets. “All I can add is that two nets were found in the same general area – another net was found in different area on Lake Nipissing. They were all found over approximately two weeks.”
manitoubass2 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) Can we quit referring to poachers as "aboriginal" "NFN" "native" or "indians"? These are poachers and low lifes, just like every other race or creed has. Miigwich Edited June 10, 2015 by manitoubass2
aplumma Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 The point is to stock fish for everyone. Once they are in the water it is up to the MNR to make sure the fish are harvested in a legal manner. Not stocking because the resource can be abused is a poor argument for not stocking. It is giving up without attempting to correct an issue. The bright side of the stocking is to show the tourist that their is an effort to bring the fishery back to former glory and that generates an influx of money from another economy that is the best kind of prosperity you can get. Art
sneak_e_pete Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 I am not here to bash native people. There are good and bad in every race and every sect of life. The problem stems from money. Treaty rights are in place to protect Native way of life. The unfortuneate part, is there are no regulations to prevent profit from this. There are a TON of Native people who use their treaty rights responsibly to provide for their families. They have that right and respect it. However, there ARE Native people who use it for profit. I dont think we should categorize this as a Native issue, rather an issue where some people (Native or not) are exploiting the system for profit at the expense of a resource. It's 2015. We are not in the times of the frontier where hunting and fishing meant survival. The traditional ways involved no gill nets, outboard motors, snow machines, rifles, etc.
curlrap Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 Again, does NFN have a restocking program and do they help financially with the LNSA? If they don't have a restocking program can anyone explain why not?
Steve Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) we ALL need money to live. no matter who you are or where you live. money talks. walleye would not be for sale by gill netters if those gill netters had funding from a secondary source. At least that's what I believe. so as a society we need to create that secondary source, purchase out the nets, providing the secondary source of income to those who generate their current income from netting. once that is done, then start rebuilding. Edited June 10, 2015 by Steve
manitoubass2 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 Again, does NFN have a restocking program and do they help financially with the LNSA? If they don't have a restocking program can anyone explain why not? Probably because most live in poverty. Probably because they have far bigger societal issues to deal with. Probably because a good amount have been subject to rascism and abuse their whole lives. I can name a bunch more too. And we stock sturgeon, what are you doing to help fish populations, just out of curiousity?
Spanky80 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 Probably because most live in poverty. Probably because they have far bigger societal issues to deal with. Probably because a good amount have been subject to rascism and abuse their whole lives. I can name a bunch more too. And we stock sturgeon, what are you doing to help fish populations, just out of curiousity?
manitoubass2 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 And poachers are poachers. Call them POACHERS. Leave the race out of it for crying out loud
manitoubass2 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 Is that the face you made after you were abducted from your family to attend residential school??? My mom was raped and beaten her whole childhood. No one went to jail. Open your fricken eyes Eugenics was apart of canadian history, ONE generation ago
Spanky80 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) Settle yourself down, you have completely lost perspective. Your previous post was a little bit over the top. This post is beyond ridiculous. How long do I have to pay (money and natural resources) because your mother was raped and beaten her whole childhood? Quit the blame game. There were many dark parts of history, it is time to move on. My eyes are open, and I can see what we have created with this welfare state. It is as much the "white" man's fault as the "natives" with our handouts. The blame game and woe is me will never end until the handouts and special status end. We don't like what the world has become either, but if we want a life for ourselves we had to adapt. Time for you to do the same. Edited June 10, 2015 by Spanky
curlrap Posted June 10, 2015 Report Posted June 10, 2015 Probably because most live in poverty. Probably because they have far bigger societal issues to deal with. Probably because a good amount have been subject to rascism and abuse their whole lives. I can name a bunch more too. And we stock sturgeon, what are you doing to help fish populations, just out of curiousity? For starters i have not kept a Walleye in almost 2 years out of that lake and i'm not a poacher. I buy my licence every year to help funding the resources.
manitoubass2 Posted June 11, 2015 Report Posted June 11, 2015 What does a "welfare state" have to do with natives? Your eyes are not open, there rose coloured. Tight lines? All my buds from OFC can reach me on facebook, bassmcbassturd. Miigwich and have a great summer!!!
Roy Posted June 11, 2015 Report Posted June 11, 2015 This should have been locked many posts ago. Calm down..it could be worse. We could be running out of bacon with no one to blame but ourselves.
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