musky_hunter Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 20lb leader is a little too strong. I've caught some huge smallies and pike on the Jbs with 12lb no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lape0019 Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Good to know! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msp Posted December 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 That is my concern with the micro guides. I also use 50-100 pound flouro leaders for pike. I don't usually need the knot to go through the guides but every once in a while if a bait gets snagged I will reel up to the bait and use the Rod tip to free it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msp Posted December 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Just checked out the price of the megabass rods. $299 might be a little steep for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 and not worth a penny when it comes to muskie or pike fishing... the MB rod would be good for bass...not so much for pike or muskie. (or at least the size of line you mentioned above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lape0019 Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) I've caught a few pike on that rod without issues. Nothing to write home about but big enough to test the rod. I should not I picked mine up for quite a bit less because the tackle shop wanted to blow out the Megabass rods. That wing said, I would buy another in a heartbeat. Although it states "jerkbait special" on it, it is quite a versatile rod that is worth a good look over. I don't beleive you will be dissapointed. I would have preferred to buy a Dobyns but as stated, I could not find what I was looking for at that time. Looking back, I probably could have done quite well with a champion 683 (not a cb stick yet almost the same ratings as the xx) but you never know. Edited December 27, 2014 by Lape0019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 its not the catching of the fish that would be the issue, rather, what baits are being casted. likely the jerk baits used for pike will be heavier than the standard vision 110's. my concern would be overblowing the rod on the cast, not bringing in a 6-8lbs pike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) i cant think of a more versatile rod for bass and pike than a 7' mh. mind you, pike and especially bass are a bit of an afterthought for me and i don't see a need for specialized gear in my case. but this style does everything i need it to, from husky jerks/xraps to spinner baits and #3-5 inlines Edited December 27, 2014 by Raf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lape0019 Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 its not the catching of the fish that would be the issue, rather, what baits are being casted. likely the jerk baits used for pike will be heavier than the standard vision 110's. my concern would be overblowing the rod on the cast, not bringing in a 6-8lbs pike. That is understandable. The rod is rated for 3/4oz. The Dobyns that are being tossed around as ideas are about the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msp Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 All very good points so far. I have plenty of rods in the med heavy category. I have a couple of heavy action flipping sticks for throwing bigger pike style jerks in the 1-2 oz range. The Rod im looking for will be for bass style jerk baits like rogues, husky jerks ect..... I will have a look at the Dobyns rods soon. I have soft spot in my heart for shimano. So I'm really considering the new crucial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 I, like quite a few here, use a dobyns 704cb graphite for jerkbaits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCTFisher9120 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 That is my concern with the micro guides. I also use 50-100 pound flouro leaders for pike. I don't usually need the knot to go through the guides but every once in a while if a bait gets snagged I will reel up to the bait and use the Rod tip to free it I think you need 2 rods Mike, one for Bass(Smallies/Largies) on the jerk bait and a completely different setup for Pike and the heavy braid/leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) i cant think of a more versatile rod for bass and pike than a 7' mh. mind you, pike and especially bass are a bit of an afterthought for me and i don't see a need for specialized gear in my case. but this style does everything i need it to, from husky jerks/xraps to spinner baits and #3-5 inlines DITTO on the 7 MH it will do most of it....and when the fishing gets tough I pull out the Barbie special..... Edited December 28, 2014 by lookinforwalleye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msp Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 I think you need 2 rods Mike, one for Bass(Smallies/Largies) on the jerk bait and a completely different setup for Pike and the heavy braid/leaders. Says the salesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 I've got a 7ft Avid, m/h, fast action that I catch most of my pike on in the spring fishing jerkbaits. It can double up as spinnerbait rod, topwater rod, whatever. I've landed some giants on that stick (40in+), never under gunned. If there was one rod I could have, that would probably be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshS Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 I like my mh 6'6 v-rod for pike husky jerks, rogues etc. Been using it since it came out back in the day. Feels good. Mind you I've never tried a dobyn's or megabass. I have an old school crucial as well that's longer but I like the shorter stick for jerkbaits. If the new crucials are like the old ones that sounds like a good bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msp Posted December 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 I've got a 7ft Avid, m/h, fast action that I catch most of my pike on in the spring fishing jerkbaits. It can double up as spinnerbait rod, topwater rod, whatever. I've landed some giants on that stick (40in+), never under gunned. If there was one rod I could have, that would probably be it. The new Avid-X looks pretty sweet. Heard a lot of great things about the St. Croix rods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 I haven't had a chance to check out the new Avid-X models yet, but if it's a split grip rod it's not for me, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkimwes Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 The new Avid-X looks pretty sweet. Heard a lot of great things about the St. Croix rods Did you buy your rod yet? I was just at Sail. They had the previous Generation Crucial on clearance for 79.99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msp Posted December 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Did you buy your rod yet? I was just at Sail. They had the previous Generation Crucial on clearance for 79.99. I had a couple of those models in the past and sold them off. I found that they didn't compare to the previous generation of crucialsI hated the foam split grip Still have a bit of time to pick out a rod. I'm going to check a few other models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msp Posted December 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 I haven't had a chance to check out the new Avid-X models yet, but if it's a split grip rod it's not for me, lol. I originally didn't like the split grip rods either. I have both but do prefer the full cork better. I'm used to the split grip now. What is your reason for not liking the split grips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 I originally didn't like the split grip rods either. I have both but do prefer the full cork better. I'm used to the split grip now. What is your reason for not liking the split grips? They're ugly, and I like a full cork grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan668 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) I have two split grips, both nrx rods. I prefer full cork 100%. Especially on the dobyns rods, balance is amazing, something the previous shimano crucials lacked, havent handled the current models though. Edited December 30, 2014 by dan668 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 two handed casting (reaction baits, etc) is a pain in the butt with split grips. all my nrx's are split grips (obviously), but otherwise I only use full cork rods. if nrx's would release non split grip versions, I'd sell all my split grips and replace with full cork. and nothing is worse than that eva foam crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) I'm a cork fan as well,hate the foam split grip,cork all the way here .Personal preference as most.. Edited December 30, 2014 by davey buoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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