akaShag Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 back to GbayGiant........... I was not thinking this was a case of commercial poaching, and for sure I was NOT saying that the persons with the spears are from any first nation. My point is that "good old boys" think that poaching is OK, they grew up thinking poaching is OK, and they are not afraid of MNR enforcement. I thought some folks here might have been suggesting that the poachers were first nations, because that seems to be a default setting for some people when fish conservation is threatened. On the other hand, if you think (from personal knowledge?) this was first nations folks with spears, taking fish to sell, well then I am very sorry indeed to hear that. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck2fan Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 It doesn't matter who did it or why it was done... It is just a horrible waste of a valuable resource. I hope the article gets some leads and we can find out what happened. I doubt because of the senselessness of it that a sane explanation of why it happened will ever be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 don't be silly. they know exactly who did it. there is no question of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushart Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 don't be silly. they know exactly who did it. there is no question of that. if you know and have proof maybe you could report that to the proper authorities.....and action could be taken....just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 too many people 'just saying' and no one with enough balls to 'start doing'. if you think for a single second that the proper local authorities don't know exactly who did it you've been spending a little too much time in the paint room. just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck2fan Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 don't be silly. they know exactly who did it. there is no question of that. I am always amazed at any communities ability to take a tragedy without any facts and spin it this way or that to fit its fears, prejudices or low opinion of our fellow human beings. In this post there are a lot of assumptions, leaps of logic and nasty innuendos, but NO PROOF which is ideally what I would like to see, before I accuse anyone or group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaShag Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Well................... ................MAYBE some people on here KNOW who the perpetrators might have been. And IF they KNOW, and IF they fail to act, they are pretty much in the same league as the poachers. My view of course. My reasonably educated guess is that nobody on this board actually KNOWS the identity of the spear-carrying fish killers, but lots of folks appear to enjoy playing the blame game, which does not advance fish conservation one iota. But here is an offer: I have a friend who is a well-placed senior Ontario conservation officer. If anybody here knows the ACTUAL IDENTITY of the perpetrator(s), send me a pm and I will absolutely ensure that the name(s) of the guilty person(s) will be passed by me to him. And furthermore, I will report back here what he tells me. Because, notwithstanding the certitude stated by our colleague Steve, I do NOT think the MNR "knows exactly" who might be responsible. But I acknowledge I have been wrong many times before and might be wrong again, but I am not afraid to admit that. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushart Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Well.Well....Nice to find out that Canuck and Shag are members of our painting fraternity---welcome to the Paint Room Maybe we could do a joint piece of work that depicts the message that there seems to be enough contempt and intolerance in this world already without going forth and trying to invent new ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaShag Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 back to bushart (as I still can't do a "QUOTE" here and no I am not going to Google Chrome...................) We could use my beard as the paint brush............. no, really................ Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushart Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Doug that could be the fan brush that went wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Another idea here folks. Who's to say it wasn't youth playing with a spear and that someone in the group is still learning how to cut a fish? Too many variables to point fingers. It IS a shame is what it is to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Another idea here folks. Who's to say it wasn't youth playing with a spear and that someone in the group is still learning how to cut a fish? Too many variables to point fingers. It IS a shame is what it is to me. Maybe it was aliens or ET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikeslayer8 Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Maybe it was aliens or ET. Anybody know what Justin Beiber was doing on the day in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Anybody know what Justin Beiber was doing on the day in question. Definitely could have been the Beibs as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaShag Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 ET or aliens, or Bustin Jieber, or Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck2fan Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Well.Well....Nice to find out that Canuck and Shag are members of our painting fraternity---welcome to the Paint Room Maybe we could do a joint piece of work that depicts the message that there seems to be enough contempt and intolerance in this world already without going forth and trying to invent new ones I have no artistic talent at all.... wish I did though, but that is another story LOL. I do hope they find out who ACTUALLY did it so they and they alone can be vilified for doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushart Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Many years ago outside Hamilton---I was listening to a guy boasting how he did an insurance job on his car and for several other paying customers Here's how it worked-----drive car to 6 Nations and set it on fire Yep---all the junior detectives with the super de-coder rings figure----Must Have been those Indians (term of the day)----again too easy What happens when facts and evidence is left out of judgements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigger Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Funny thing is, I thought the OP was from 2004, not 2014... Also somewhat amazed that noone has been able to snap pics or video, considering that just about everyone has a phone with the capability to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaShag Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Back to Jigger..................according to the Ontario Out of Doors article, dated 20 May 2014, the photos WERE taken by a guy who came upon the scene, and the name of the person who took the photos is also listed in the article............. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carp Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I don't have as much a problem with the spearing as I do with leaving the fish to rot. Ran into a native gill net a few years back. While trying to untangle our lines, we saw dozens of walleye rotting in the net, along with several pike and some coarse fish. What a waste of a valuable resource !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I don't have as much a problem with the spearing as I do with leaving the fish to rot. Ran into a native gill net a few years back. While trying to untangle our lines, we saw dozens of walleye rotting in the net, along with several pike and some coarse fish. What a waste of a valuable resource !!! did the gill net present its status card? Lol geez. I agree with the rotting fish part though, brutal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigger Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) Back to Jigger..................according to the Ontario Out of Doors article, dated 20 May 2014, the photos WERE taken by a guy who came upon the scene, and the name of the person who took the photos is also listed in the article............. Doug What I meant was A) this issue has been around the block. no pics or video of the offending party had been taken. Edit to add: A quick google search pulled this article on the first page. The article in the OP says the offending pics were taken on April 20 of this year. This article is from April of 2010. It points to a regular pattern. Key words WALLEYE SPEARING MOIRA showed more than one article of interest. http://www.intelligencer.ca/2010/04/06/native-fishing-season-begins Edited May 22, 2014 by Jigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 News at 11... When the walleye spear back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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