mattybculp Posted September 12, 2013 Report Posted September 12, 2013 Please don't. Ok I won't. Guess you missed the joke there. Woulda guessed by your profile pic, that you would have got it.
Dozer Posted September 12, 2013 Report Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) Although I gotta ask, you'd rather see guys taking eggs from wild, self sustaining fisheries or put and take stock fisheries were no natural reproduction occurs? Rather see roe not being allowed to be used as bait however you're right, I would much rather see the eggs being harvested from stockers vs. wild, self sustaining populations no doubt. As for no natural reproduction occurring I'm not sure thats the case, sure, lots of stocking but there are still fish that are able to spawn successfully in other systems, the numbers are probably small... The bait is free - factor out the costs of the rods, lines, gas, etc. ( which already you own because you are fisherman ) the roe is still free. You didn't pay for it, didn't trade anything for it. The mentality " we paid $60 to get here so we better get as much roe as possible" is retarded to me - shows a lack of respect - hatchery, wild fish, whatever fish. I would imagine a lot of those fish get tossed - recycling bins fill up fast in some parking lots. I am getting softer and softer... certainly my view of fishing has changed since day 1 and can't deal with certain things any more. It upsets me, it really does. I couldn't take what I witnessed on some of those NY tribs, cut trips short because I was sick of what was going on around me. East tribs are my stomping grounds and I refuse to go to popular spots because of the down right rape that goes down... did I mention that I'm a softie? Edited September 12, 2013 by Dozer
BillM Posted September 13, 2013 Report Posted September 13, 2013 (edited) If you've been to the Oak, or Burt you know there's no natural reproduction going on. It's too bad the NY DNR would rather stock a 1,000,000 fish a year instead of improving stream habitat. But what can ya do... Still a place I enjoy fishing once in a while even if I'm not bringing back roe with me. Edited September 13, 2013 by BillM
nexstar Posted September 13, 2013 Report Posted September 13, 2013 Gross.. What a waste of a beauty..
Steve Posted September 13, 2013 Report Posted September 13, 2013 likely now being used by someone with a fancy float rod and reel - trying to fish a fish that is spawning, after killing another fish to get the roe. with risk of sounding like Paul, --- BAN FISHING WITH ROE AND THIS WONT HAPPEN ---
Christopheraaron Posted September 13, 2013 Report Posted September 13, 2013 saw a slit male today (chinny), how do you not tell the difference?
BillM Posted September 14, 2013 Report Posted September 14, 2013 saw a slit male today (chinny), how do you not tell the difference? People river fishing for spawning chinooks and zipping open males probably aren't the brightest of the bunch
adolson Posted September 14, 2013 Report Posted September 14, 2013 Now, to play devil's advocate.. it seems silly to slit fish for bait, to catch more fish, for more bait.. Though I'm sure for some it's just as silly to go out day after day, chase fish, spend countless dollars on equipment simply to take a picture and put a fish back. Not to mention ignore mortality rates in the process. Just seeing the coin from both sides. My coin must be some weird Northern Ontario one, because the only sides it has is catch & release, and catch & eat.
craigdritchie Posted September 14, 2013 Report Posted September 14, 2013 Nice idea, but banning roe won't do anything to stop this kind of stuff. Snagging fish is already illegal, yet hundreds of people still do it every weekend. Same thing for fishing in the sanctuary, or for slitting fish for eggs then leaving the carcass to rot. Happens all the time, in spite of being blatantly illegal. Whoever chopped and hacked that brown has already broken one, and likely two provincial fishing laws. Do you really think they're worried about breaking a third one by fishing with roe if it's ever banned? Not a chance. It is pretty rare to see a C.O. on the river in the fall, when they're already busy with hunting season. Even if you do get caught doing something wrong, what's the fine? $100? It's not exactly a strong deterrent. Guys will be right back out there the next day, doing the same stuff all over again. I'm not defending this, I'm just pointing out the reality. It's already illegal to snag fish, to fish in sanctuaries, to fish for species that are out of season, or to parade up and down the river at night with nothing but a big landing net, but it all happens on an a daily basis. So why would people who are already flaunting the law care about a ban on roe? Guys who slit fish for eggs will continue to do so, because they know the odds of being caught are basically zero. Banning roe is not the answer. Increasing enforcement, and laying heavier fines that really would act as a deterrent, is.
Christopheraaron Posted September 15, 2013 Report Posted September 15, 2013 People river fishing for spawning chinooks and zipping open males probably aren't the brightest of the bunch Ok, how about this. Today I saw a slit fish with ALL of it's eggs still there!
BillM Posted September 15, 2013 Report Posted September 15, 2013 Ok, how about this. Today I saw a slit fish with ALL of it's eggs still there! Now that's interesting, lol.
irishfield Posted September 15, 2013 Report Posted September 15, 2013 Maybe there's just s sharp piece of metal sticking up in the steam.....
Locnar Posted September 15, 2013 Author Report Posted September 15, 2013 Hahaha, damn those fillet knives that are sticking up in the stream. They get me every time.
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