Christopheraaron Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Hey, last night I was at Bronte and after reading the discussion about rod length affecting casting distance I decided to try my spinning reel on my 9ft 8wt fly rod, and as inefficient as the handle was it still cast a mile with very little effort. Only problem is that it's very hard to cast with a fly rod, so I was wondering where can I get a pier rod, preferably 11 or 12 feet for under $40? I was looking on ebay and they have some but the shipping costs a fortune, I really don't want to spend too much on this because I won't use it as much as something like a bass rod. Also, which little cleos glow? I bought a couple of glow in the dark spoons but they lose all their light after 1 cast. I tried looking for little cleos but they don't mark which ones glow? Thanks for any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'mHooked Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 For chucking spoons you don't need to go with something as long as 11-12 ft. If you found an 8'6"-9' MH rod that is rated for up to 8-17 or 8-20 lb line or up to 1oz lure weight at least, you'll be good. I picked up a Pflueger 8'6" MH, 8-20lb rated, at Fishing World for about $40 4-5 years ago, and it's landed a few fish in the 20-25lb range without difficulty on 12lb line. I don't have any trouble getting spoons out far enough. I think Fishing World even has a bunch of these Pflueger rods on sale now. Also, you should check out some of the bulk or loose sold glow spoons as well. they're a buck or two less then the packaged Cleos, and they can usually hold their glow for at least a few casts. Saw a bunch hanging on the peg board at Burns Fishing in Burl. the other day. Glow with Red dots. Good luck with the efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Thanks, sorry fishing world is in Burlington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) $70 Shimano Convergence @ LeBarons.. 10'6... Not the greatest pier rod (aside from a custom build) but for the price you can't beat it. Edited September 9, 2012 by BillM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) Rapala has some rods that should suit your price point and needs. I believe bps had some. Edited September 9, 2012 by kickingfrog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipper D Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Send our member Cheaptackle a PM and see if he can fix you up , he gives supper deals to the OFC members here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burtess Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 $70 Shimano Convergence @ LeBarons.. 10'6... Not the greatest pier rod (aside from a custom build) but for the price you can't beat it. If you can swing the extra $30 or so the Convergence is a great pier rod. I use the 10' (CVS-L100M-2) but I cut about 4" off the butt end so it doesn't get caught in my jacket. Burt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenCanada Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Check out Sail. They have 15% off all fishing gear right now. I picked up a salmon/steelhead rod, not for $40, but I definitely saw some less than $60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmon Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Hi I was just at Lebarons to grab some stuff and they have the rod I use. Spinning rod Rapala RSC 9 ft 3/8 - 3/4 med action. under 50 dollars. Lots of backbone not like the noodle rods I saw yesterday J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassfighter Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) Peters Tackle at st catherine is famous for long rod, the more number of guide on the rod, the better the rod but will cost more. More guide means less chance of breaking the line during a fight with a fish. I own a 9 ft rod with 11 guides and another 12 ft with only 9 guides. 9-10 ft is the least length you need. Depending on your application, for coarse fishing, noodle rod with 4-8lb rating are sufficient, but if you want to use the rod with lures fishing on moving current of Niagara river, you need a rod with some good back bone 4-12lb line weight is the least you need, some rod like the Shimano convergence takes up to 16 lb. To be even more specific on the type of fishing you are aiming for, for steelheading, the lighter weight rod, the better you can feel the fight. I find convergence way too heavy for steelheading after comparing it to my other lighter weight rod. Shimano Convergence used to have a lifetime warranty, not a bad investment for the long term. The longer the rod, the more prone to potential damage during transport, or to fishing on tight spot. Make sure you are not buying surf rod, they are too heavy and cheaper, not suitable for casting lures on pier. Heavy enough to land a 4 ft shark fishing Miami shore line. I witness some desperate anglers using surf rod on pier with at least 50-75lb mono, they just want to horse the salmon to shore as fast as they can, so the fish taken home for dinner will substantiate the gas they put in. Hard to find a rod that can do it all or for under CA$40! In US, the price exist! Edited September 10, 2012 by bassfighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2vr6 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 $70 Shimano Convergence @ LeBarons.. 10'6... Not the greatest pier rod (aside from a custom build) but for the price you can't beat it. I've got an ancient 9'6" convergence thats had tons of salmon on it and takes a beating, awesome rod for the money, and now many places are clearing out the old model in the $60-$80 range. I just replaced it with a 10'6" new model convergence. Without spending tons of money these are great casting rods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted September 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Alright, I think I have the rod down for now. But in terms of spoons, I got a bunch of little cleos but they only hold a glow for a cast or two. Last night I saw some guys that had really, really nice ones, they said that they were called pete spoons, anyone know where to buy them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Alright, I think I have the rod down for now. But in terms of spoons, I got a bunch of little cleos but they only hold a glow for a cast or two. Last night I saw some guys that had really, really nice ones, they said that they were called pete spoons, anyone know where to buy them? Look into Moonshine glow spoons as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted September 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Look into Moonshine glow spoons as well. I don't know, they seem too light to cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I don't know, they seem too light to cast. They make a few different models.. You aren't casting the same spoons you pull behind the boat with the riggers http://www.moonshinelures.com/casting-spoons/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted September 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Alright, that's the kind of thing I was looking for, do you know where I can get some? they only sell the trolling models at sail and they don't have them at all at BPS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck2fan Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 If you can swing the extra $30 or so the Convergence is a great pier rod. I use the 10' (CVS-L100M-2) but I cut about 4" off the butt end so it doesn't get caught in my jacket. Burt He makes a great point about having to cut the end of the handle off of most pier rods. For some reason 90% of rods over 9ft have this HONKING long handle that is totally friggin useless and it will drive you insane when you are wearing heavier clothing. The problem with cutting off the rod is when you put it in the car if the rod tip end is longer it is more apt to get broken IMO. There is a solution out there that most rod makers offer if you can find them. Look for a Michigan handle trout/salmon rod. All it is, is a rod where the foregrip is longer than the butt section making it perfect for chucking spoons. Shimano has made them in both the convergence and clarius I believe, but try finding one. Okuma and Quantum also makes them as does Shakespeare in their Agility line. I believe it was the Quantum one I got for my father and it was 54.00 at Angler outfitters in Woodstock. Although the 5 employees that were working the day I got didn't know what it was they do sell it. When I asked for a Michigan handle rod they were like deer in the headlights, but they had 3 examples when I educated them on what I was looking for and why I wanted it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I love the long handle for some extra umph while casting.... I can't imagine you'd get much out of that tiny rear section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooked Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 (edited) Alright, I think I have the rod down for now. But in terms of spoons, I got a bunch of little cleos but they only hold a glow for a cast or two. Last night I saw some guys that had really, really nice ones, they said that they were called pete spoons, anyone know where to buy them? They are referring to the spoons you get at Peter's Tackle in St. Catherines. Custom made and very popular spoons and pretty cheap too. They do hold the glow a lot longer than cleo's... Edited September 14, 2012 by Hooked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted September 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Thanks hooked, they were probably recharging about every 20 casts and it just looked like they were casting light bulbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck2fan Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 To maximize the amout of time your spoons glow grab a uv money checker light at a dollar store. Those cheap uv lights are the cheapest and best light source to make any spoon glow much longer than a camera flash. It must work great because any time I show someone one of mine they wind up going home with it somehow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted September 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 That makes sense C2F cause the guys that I was mentioning with the pete spoon were using a sort of purple light that was probably UV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernpike56 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 That makes sense C2F cause the guys that I was mentioning with the pete spoon were using a sort of purple light that was probably UV. I thought so too. Maybe it would be beneficial to buy a few pete spoons, then switch them up and charge one with the UV lamp while you fish the other, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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