ah_long Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 I'm about to purchase a new boat and I found an 2003 Alumacraft Magnum 165 CS w/ a 2005 Mercury Optimax 115hp anything I should know about this model as well as the motor? What's a fair price for it and are there any other alternatives? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 I would think the 8,500 they are asking for is about right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah_long Posted September 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 obviously you know which ad i'm looking @ I feel the price is right too.. just want to know if there's any problems or issues with this year of model and the motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 any problems with the Optimax had been worked out by that year I think it a real fine motor and I thought the whole package looked good, I had sen twit off to a friend who is looking for one, but he wants a dual console Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 dual console As long as Im dry,who needs a dual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah_long Posted September 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 there's only one concern though, the boat is rated for a max of 90hp and it's a 115hp on it.. I'm not too concerned about the boat being able to handle that motor as much as whether I'll have a problem with the insurance if an issue arises (touch wood) I spoke to the seller and he said as long as the new motor doesn't push the boat over 60mph it would be fine.. I want to know if there's any truth to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 there's only one concern though, the boat is rated for a max of 90hp and it's a 115hp on it.. I'm not too concerned about the boat being able to handle that motor as much as whether I'll have a problem with the insurance if an issue arises (touch wood) I spoke to the seller and he said as long as the new motor doesn't push the boat over 60mph it would be fine.. I want to know if there's any truth to this. well that can be a problem..... you could check the us plate and see if it's good in the US for 115 hp..and get alumacraft to send you a US plate....then when you insure it you state the fact it has a us Plate and you should be OK........if the US allows the bigger motor which is usually the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) there's only one concern though, the boat is rated for a max of 90hp and it's a 115hp on it.. I'm not too concerned about the boat being able to handle that motor as much as whether I'll have a problem with the insurance if an issue arises (touch wood) I spoke to the seller and he said as long as the new motor doesn't push the boat over 60mph it would be fine.. I want to know if there's any truth to this. There was a post regaurding over horse power.Do a search here. Not sure who started it,but did read it. Edited September 30, 2011 by Misfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah_long Posted September 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 seems like 90hp max is the same across the board.. I tried searching for the thread but couldn't find it.. any pointers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 The first thing I thought was too much hp on a 16.5' boat. I hate to say it but I would think insurance would be null and void if something happens....and I am not referring to the boat but rather to someone hurt, be it in the boat or elsewhere. You could be facing a HUGE lawsuit...be extra careful. BTW is it possible that this motor could have a governor installed on it ? ? ?... Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenboater Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 not to jack your thread ah_long but a question for the wise ones here and it's kinda on topic I'm looking at getting something similar next year or so (full console if I can swing it) and I'm not a speed demon on the water, what would be a good all rounder for this ? 40 ? 60 ? thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah_long Posted September 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 I highly doubt there's a governor installed on it.. I share the same concerns as you, I'm not too worried if I lose the boat as much as if someone else gets hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 it is only 25hp over rating...peanuts if I remember it is the same weight as the 90 Optimax.....you could prop it it minimize the speed..but I don't think it will make that much difference but because of insurance concerns, contact your insurance company and others and see if you can find someone to insure it..that would solve the problem if not I will trade you for my 90hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah_long Posted September 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 as far as weight is concerned, I know it's the same as the 90 so it's ok there.. just concerned about insurance and all those legal crap.. I'm on hold with my insurance CO right now and see if I can get a green light from them If anything, I'm thinking about buying a 90hp cover and put it on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alumacraft Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 I have the same boat but a '01 I don't have one bad thing to say about it. Great riding and handling (no feedback steering) . Mine has a nice big livewell, baitwell, lots of good laid out storage. What you might do about your motor issue is what a buddy had to do with Lund. He wanted to put larger motor on his tyee was he got them too send him a letter that their enginer / service rep. Ok'd the larger motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah_long Posted September 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 interesting, never thought about that.. I'll give that a shot... personally I don't see a problem with the larger motor and let's face it, who doesn't want a faster boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFSC Kevin Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 That's the first thing that popped in my mind when you said 115 on a 16 footer. If you can't get a go by the insurance company then I'd skip the deal. Or just go without the insurance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Just buy it and trade somebody for a smaller motor... Shouldn't be hard to find a trade... Most guys are looking for a bigger motor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah_long Posted October 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 (edited) finally got a hold of him.. going to take the boat out this coming week Edited October 1, 2011 by ah_long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcreekdad Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 I'm about to purchase a new boat and I found an 2003 Alumacraft Magnum 165 CS w/ a 2005 Mercury Optimax 115hp anything I should know about this model as well as the motor? What's a fair price for it and are there any other alternatives? Thanks I have a Magnum 165 in tiller model. I bought it new about 12 years ago. Great boat....likely my last. Great ride, even in chop, lots of room, and stable as hell. Mine is powered by a 60 hp Yam 4 stroke. That's the largest the tiller model is rated for. Top end speed is about 35mph, which is fine for the water I fish (mostly French River and small inland lakes). As others have said, I would be concerned about the motor size for that model. I like the idea from others about buying it and replacing the motor via trade or resale. The boat itself is great. Also, smaller motor will save you a little gas money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbuck Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Contact Alumacraft. Get a letter from one of the engineers and you will be fine. DO THAT before buying the boat. Having to mess around to trade for a smaller engine involves potential problems (blown engine or pooched lower) and also the cost to switch. Too many unkowns. That hull with a 90hp would be awesome, plenty of power to get up and go with a full load. A 115hp, even better if the boat can take it. Good luck!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 According to my insurance agent if you overpower a boat your insurance is null and void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah_long Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 I called MD marine insurance (the current insurance policy on the boat) and it's a green light the only thing that won't be covered is if the motor falls off due to the increased weight but I don't see that as an issue so hoping all goes well @ the test drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 I knew it would work out and I knew my buddy should have bought it...but good for you...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah_long Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 i mostly fish solo or duo, so i think it should work good.. but if you put 3 or more ppl on the 165, I find it too cramped up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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