mike rousseau Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 well... i have lots of artificials to try for steelhead this winter... but sometimes you cant beat the real thing....roe problem is... i dont have the real thing... so i was wondering if the store bought single eggs are any good for tying roe bags? from what i can tell... they are just professionally cured salmon eggs... so i figure they will work... i know they are expensive... but so is a 3 hour trip to try and get a female chinook just for the eggs.... and give away the meat... i figure its about 50 bucks for 12 1.5oz jars...so 18oz by volume not weight... and i also figure each trip i would use 1-2 jars... so id get 6-12 trips for 50 bucks in bait...4-8 bucks a trip in bait... anyways...what do you steelhead guys think about Pautzke's "Balls O' Fire" Salmon Eggs in roe bags? i am also open to other suggestions... thnx mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaque Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Never heard of them.......but im south of the border. Initial reaction to any eggs sold in a jar sittin on the shelf........not the best choice. Im not sure where your located but, i see a lot of lot lizards around the local marinas this time of year getting their skeins from the charter guys comin off the lake. Hang around the cleaning stations and you may be able to score the fresh goods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT8 smoker craft Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Hey Mike check around your area for trout hatcheries if you have one close enough they will usually sell you loose roe . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted September 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Like I said... I'm 3 hours from trout waters... So I'm not gunna drive 3 hours on hopes of salmon egg handouts... I'll check for hatcheries... But I don't think there are any around here... I'm between Ottawa and Montreal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 You can order some loose coho and chinook eggs off here: http://centerpinangling.com/spawn-products.html You can also call up a couple trout farms like Primrose Trout Farm, or the one in Shannonville and see if they'll sell some to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjgraham Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 where are you going steelhead fishing? Most bait stores will carry tied roe. Usually a doz for 4 bucks. I would say buy a jar of the balls o fire stuff and when you get close to your steelhead spot stop and see if they are selling spawn at the bait shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaque Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Like I said... I'm 3 hours from trout waters... So I'm not gunna drive 3 hours on hopes of salmon egg handouts... didnt catch that. So that being said.........Id buy whatever you can get your hands on locally, so at least you have something. And while your in trout land,.......get it at the local Marinas or Shops before or after you fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted September 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 You can order some loose coho and chinook eggs off here: http://centerpinangling.com/spawn-products.html You can also call up a couple trout farms like Primrose Trout Farm, or the one in Shannonville and see if they'll sell some to you. would you suggest coho or chinook eggs if i order from these guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 would you suggest coho or chinook eggs if i order from these guys? I've only tried the coho eggs that my friend ordered from Centerpin Angling. In a nutshell they worked. 99% of the time when I do use roe, it's from a chinook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.R.C Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 would you suggest coho or chinook eggs if i order from these guys? The only difference between chinook and coho roe is the actual size of the egg. Chinook eggs are a bit bigger depending on the size of the fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bow slayer Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 don't waste your money on the jarred stuff. most trout stream area baitshops will carry both tied fresh roe bags and loose roe in bulk that you can tie yourself.Much more productive then any jarred roe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msp Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 The only difference between chinook and coho roe is the actual size of the egg. Chinook eggs are a bit bigger depending on the size of the fish. In my opinion this is not true. Coho roe has a different colour and has a totally different smell. It will outfish chinook roe any day of the week. The problem is that its a bit harder to get than chinook roe. Mike, if your ever near T.O. send a pm and I can hook you up with enough roe to get you through a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted September 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Anybody know a bait shop east of Toronto that sells loose roe...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Anybody know a bait shop east of Toronto that sells loose roe...? Tightlines in Pickering for sure. Maybe Gagnons in Oshawa does - I know they sell pre-tied bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted September 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Tightlines in Pickering for sure. Maybe Gagnons in Oshawa does - I know they sell pre-tied bags. Pre tied is really expensive... I'm a stay at home dad... I have time to tie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strakey Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Pre tied is really expensive... I'm a stay at home dad... I have time to tie... Those eggs your talking about come from the west. They have a different modality of pinning there. Those fish are all ocean run so those eggs are designed for them. Looked into it myself but decided that fresh roe from here is better. Basically any row will work this time of year, but match the hatch so to speak. Mostly chinook spawning right now so use chinook roe etc. Centerpin angling carries great stuff i use their roe as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshS Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Pre tied is really expensive... I'm a stay at home dad... I have time to tie... They sell loose roe as well. That link MJL provided looks like better stuff but I'd look into getting some off someone with a little extra to give like msp's offer... The stuff sitting cured in jars doesn't produce like fresh roe, it will work fine if the river is high and the bite is hot however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoz Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 If you can get over to Port Hope, just hang around the fish cleaning station for a bit . . . . . I got enough roe that people didn't want, to do me for the next 2 years, in one fell swoop. there were 3 guys who had 3 roe laden females, they only needed the roe from 1, they gave me ALL the roe outta a 30+ pounder . . . . about 5 pounds at least! Better hurry, the run is nearly over. The best time is between midnight & 04:00, people are leaving & cleaning up their fish. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streamerstripper Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 I'm from BC and everybody and their dog fishes those 'eggs' out there...I've seen alot of fish caught on them out that way - most times with just a single egg and pinch of wool...some guys tie them in bags but most don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankTheRabbit Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 A lot of other anglers, including myself, have had tremendous luck with egg fly patterns and trout beads. I used a chartreuse coloured egg fly for salmon and was getting hook ups just as much as my buds using roe. It was the right place at the right time. Trout beads are also very effective in their own place as well. I definitely out fished a friend who was using trout roe sacs. Both are definitely on the economical side of things and should be easily available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted September 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 I have trout beads... As well as many other artificials... Jigs...flies...pink worms... But I've been told some days... Nothing beats roe... I ordered some chinook roe from the store MJL suggested... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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