Banger68 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 After a couple years of looking I think I'm finally going live a dream of mine to buy my first new boat. I'd like to get opinions/discussion on a few things. This will not be just a fishing boat but also a family boat (skiing, tubing, and cruising) I boat in Lake Erie (bit in Lake Ontario, and Huron), the Kawarthas, and in some small lakes up on the Bruce Pen. So I've decided that 17'-18', full windshield, and rear folding bench are some of the main options that I need. I've think I've narrowed it down to three. Sylvan Explorer Sport Legend 18 Xcalibur Princecraft Super Sport Anybody have experience/own these? For the next while I will be towing with a minivan, and is one of the reasons I’m staying with an aluminum boat. It has the tow package and the boats are well within its tow rating. Anybody have problems at launch ramps with FWD with this kind of weight? I’m planning on getting a 115 hp Optimax or E-Tec. That should give me plenty power for a day out fishing or water sports. Anybody have experience on maintaining these engines? I keep getting conflicting reports on what has to been done for each brand. Welcome any experience/opinions. This is a big deal for me and I do not want to get something I regret in a couple years. Thanks Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbouck Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Can't go wrong with any of those choices. I have a Legend and love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeter Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 as for the front wheel drive on the launches----no problem i had a 17'skeeter bass boat with a 150 on it and i have a 25'chriscraft deep V hull with a 15o on it and i never have a problem with my mini van-fwd only. as for the boat my choice would be an 18' V hull bow rider. theres more room for the family with the open bow. full windshield with a camper top on it so you can get up and walk around. as for the motor there both good motors, just make sure you dont under power it. if its rated for 140 dont go below 115. a lot of dealers will advertise a boat thats rated for a 140 but put a 50 or 75 on it to keep the price low to attract the buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Of the 3 Princecraft Super Sport hands down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFSC Kevin Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Not much advise from me but grats on getting a new boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger68 Posted March 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 as for the boat my choice would be an 18' V hull bow rider. theres more room for the family with the open bow. full windshield with a camper top on it so you can get up and walk around. as for the motor there both good motors, just make sure you dont under power it. if its rated for 140 dont go below 115. a lot of dealers will advertise a boat thats rated for a 140 but put a 50 or 75 on it to keep the price low to attract the buyers. All three are bow riders that convert into fishing platforms. I've been trying to make sure I don't fall into the underpower trap. But the next step up from 115 seems to be a $$$ one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger68 Posted March 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) Of the 3 Princecraft Super Sport hands down I agree that it appears to be the better finished boat. But the 17' doesn't have proper rod storage which I found odd. But is it $3k-$4k better? Not sure. Do you own one? Edited March 25, 2010 by Banger68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger68 Posted March 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Not much advise from me but grats on getting a new boat! Thanks, but it isn't in the driveway yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer379 Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 i have a 1750 fish hawk crestliner and a 2002 carvan i don't know how much i would trust it in a wet boat launch pulls it fine. I went to a lake with a low slope launch gravel was flying when i pulled out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 I towed and launched various similiar sized boats for years with a mini-van. I never really had a problem (excepting the first time I launched at the rough ramp at the end of my road, that required a tow-truck), but after 9 years now with a 4x4 pick-up, I wouldn't want to use anything else anymore. Nothing worse than arriving at a rougher looking ramp than expected and having to wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Mini-van no problem they will tow anything just ask any mini van owner!!LOL Good luck with the new rig!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anders Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 I too have been in the market for boats, and my wife has given the go ahead, just research. Look at the alumacraft trophy 185 or the 195, truly an awsome boat. I have my sights on the 195 trophy. The legend is nice and deep and has me looking as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie_james_c Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 You're up into the high end boats . Check out the Strato's 476SF fish n ski. Very nice fibreglass boats and very fair prices!! http://www.stratosbo...ro.cfm?mid=5564 Otherwise I'd say the Princecraft hands down...that thing is luxxxury in a nutshell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger68 Posted March 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 (edited) I too have been in the market for boats, and my wife has given the go ahead, just research. Look at the alumacraft trophy 185 or the 195, truly an awsome boat. I have my sights on the 195 trophy. The legend is nice and deep and has me looking as well. I've been comparing for a couple years now. It's hard to find a boat that does all well. Tough to get a balance, The Alumacraft do not suit the non-fishing mode as well as the boats I mentioned. The Sylvan, Legend, and the Princecraft are all very close in dimensions. Have a look. Edited March 26, 2010 by Banger68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smally21 Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 have to add the stratos excursion series. fiberglass boats that way nothing, couldn't hurt to check the website. dt powersports in ontario sells them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowanjo Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Awesome time for sure - have just done this myself and settled on a Proanger Xl from smokercraft (note thier deal was exceptional and got the price I demanded) - looked at all listed (not same model as i fish Kawartha lakes exclusively so I wanted a little smaller - I purchased through Port colbourne - Dan - can not say enough about them or the service on this boat or the last Legend Boats we have Henry Nguyen on this site who works for them - great guy and will give you his best as well. Good luck and post some pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger68 Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Awesome time for sure - have just done this myself and settled on a Proanger Xl from smokercraft (note thier deal was exceptional and got the price I demanded) - looked at all listed (not same model as i fish Kawartha lakes exclusively so I wanted a little smaller - I purchased through Port colbourne - Dan - can not say enough about them or the service on this boat or the last Legend Boats we have Henry Nguyen on this site who works for them - great guy and will give you his best as well. Good luck and post some pictures I have been talking to Dan at Port Colbourne on some of the Sylvans they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radnine Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) Sylvan Explorer Sport Legend 18 Xcalibur Princecraft Super Sport Anybody have experience/own these? No, but I own a Crestliner and know that you won't be sorry if you look at one of these: http://www.crestliner.com/sport-angler-sport-fishing-boat-1750/ Good luck!! Jim Edited March 27, 2010 by Radnine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 I bought a 16' explorer last year and am plenty happy with it but don't discount Starcraft. They make a heck of a nice boat. I would have been my first choice except it had to have a black motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger68 Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) No, but I own a Crestliner and know that you won't be sorry if you look at one of these: http://www.crestliner.com/sport-angler-sport-fishing-boat-1750/ Good luck!! Jim I did look at Crestliner. But it like others doesn't convert to a cruise/watersport aswell as the three I mentioned. The Super Hawk was probably 4th on my list. They look like a real nice fishing boat though. Edited March 28, 2010 by Banger68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger68 Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I bought a 16' explorer last year and am plenty happy with it but don't discount Starcraft. They make a heck of a nice boat. I would have been my first choice except it had to have a black motor I'll have to go have a look. they have a model that suits my need. Didn't notice it at the boat show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pspoons Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Have you looked into a tracker targa 17?? great fishing family boat.. did a lot of research and i'm switching from a legend 16 to a targa 17 go online and check the specks before u make a deision!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishhawk7 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I have owned a Sylvan Pro select 19, for 15 years now and it has not given me one once of trouble, and I use this thing in Lake Ontario, Lake Erie and the Kawartha's and I can't say enough good things about this boat. Sylvan and Smoker Craft both come out of the same plant so quality is very comparable. As for towing, the best advice I can give you as a mechanic is to have a good quality transmission cooler mounted, and service the trans regularly as the transmission will be the weak link when towing comes into play. Good luck on your search and pick what boat gives you what you want for features and layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger68 Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Have you looked into a tracker targa 17?? great fishing family boat.. did a lot of research and i'm switching from a legend 16 to a targa 17 go online and check the specks before u make a deision!! I was looking at an 18 combo at Bass Pro on Sat. It has the little jump seats at the side instead of bench. All of these little seats were not well padded and probably uncomfy if it is a little rough. It did not have any enclosed rod storage (thought wass odd on a Tracker) and the sides were pretty wavvy where they were welded to the transom. But they do have alot little touches that are nice and it come with 4 removable seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger68 Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 As for towing, the best advice I can give you as a mechanic is to have a good quality transmission cooler mounted, and service the trans regularly as the transmission will be the weak link when towing comes into play. My van has the tow package with the aux tranny and oil cooler. But I fully agree and would never tow without the tranny cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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