MuddyWater Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 i picked up some spider wire teflon coated stuff the 6lb and spooled that on. one thing i noticed is tying a knot its annoing and i had to improvise some crazy knot that i dont trust to much lol. so i was wondering about what knot is best for braid. also it makes a weird sound when pulling through the eyes of my rod will it burn or groove my rod? anyways anything that can go bad would be good to know. peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccmtcanada Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Use the Palomar Knot.... http://www.animatedknots.com/palomar/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 i'd recommend learning the uni knot and it's variations (ie uni to uni for joining lines) the noise is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snag Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I use a uni knot. Beware, it will cut you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumma Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I have been using braid for about 6 years now and it is a great product for what it can do. First of all remember that you have no stretch to it so slow down and use less force when setting the hook. If you do get snagged and wrap it around your hand to pop the line you will usually slice into your hand expecially if they are wet or if it is in a groove of your finger. Their is a suppliment in the spool of braid that gives you a few knots to use I can tie them but do not remember the names. Braid tends to get fuzzy as it is abraided against rocks and things a fuzzy line is a weak line so cut off a few feet just as you do with mono. You may find that if the water is very clear the fish can see the line some people use a mono or flourocarbon leader when the fish are nervous. If you are using a baitcaster and you are still getting birdnests in the mono you will have even a harder time getting the backlash out of the braid. I wont go into the upside of the braid because you have already found out that you like it and as you get comfortable with it you might someday go with it in all of your fishing adventures like I have. Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Once you have filled the spool, make sure to let all the line out of the reel and reel it back in wet. (We used a small spoon and a quick 30 second romp of the motor to get all the line in the water) If not, there is a good chance you'll end up having the line slip on the spool (Happened to my oldman this weekend) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reef Runner Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Mono backing on the spool. Uni to uni knot (make sure line diameter is the same or you'll have problems). Palomar kbnow to tie on leaders, lures. reefrunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 do you have any Mono backing on the spool? if not, you need to have a backing of mono before the braided line and a double unit knot is best I find to join the 2 lines together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyWater Posted May 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 yea i forgot about the backing part since its 1lb dia. and my reel is only half full ill have to get the line counter out and spool up some backing. im going to use a 8lb floro leader for all my fishing (im a nut about line visibility) Another thing i would like to know can pike and musky cut braid easily? i tried biting off a peice and it took a good amount of chomping!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Another thing i would like to know can pike and musky cut braid easily? i tried biting off a peice and it took a good amount of chomping!! I don't know about you but my teeth are nothing like a pike's... HAHA yes they can to answer your question. Not at all like mono though. if you are fishing for fish with big teeth then maybe you want a Titanium Leader Wire about 30 LB or so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyWater Posted May 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 i rarely fish for pike i just catch them when im casting my nice new rapala for walleye and the pike steal it lol. then i shake my fist at the water and tie on another 10 bucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 see, i find that when you tie on cold hard cash I don't get any fish, just my wife wondering what the hell i'm up to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reef Runner Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 If there are alot of pike in the area, definately use a leader. You won't be shaking your fist at the water as much. Lotsa guys tie their own floros, expensive at the store. A good black wire or titanium should do ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoty Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Stay away from PowerPro! Just lost $20 worth of lures because the line broke on the cast(s)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Stay away from PowerPro!Just lost $20 worth of lures because the line broke on the cast(s)! User error? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoty Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 User error? If making a cast while fishing is a User error....then guilty as charged. (Line didnt break at the knot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry2Rs Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I had the same problem with Spiderwire's Invisabraid in 30 pound test. I e-mailed the company and they asked me to mail it to them. Last week I received a replacement spool...I will see what happens. What pound test were you using? What size lures were you throwing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyWater Posted May 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 i read something that braid has little stretch which means if you cast it hard and crazy like and you hit a knot or something it can snap it super easy because of the line shock or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Only time I have ever had braid snap is when it's been tangled around one of the eyelets before casting. Braid just doesn't snap for no reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccmtcanada Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 (edited) I use 20 and 30 lb power pro....and I have never had a problem. Edited May 20, 2008 by ccmt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 ...also it makes a weird sound when pulling through the eyes of my rod will it burn or groove my rod? anyways anything that can go bad would be good to know.peace I have been told that eyelets that are not durable or built for the braid will cut. Maybe someone else can give better info on this. forrest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerritt Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 If making a cast while fishing is a User error....then guilty as charged. (Line didnt break at the knot) Sounds like you bought some counterfeit line.. PowerPro has a problem with cheap knock offs hitting the market with less the a superior product... see the power pro website for details. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccmtcanada Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I have been told that eyelets that are not durable or built for the braid will cut. Maybe someone else can give better info on this. forrest I heard the same thing from my local tackle shop....he suggested using at least 30lb power pro. He said that 20lb is really thin and can groove the eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerritt Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 (edited) I heard the same thing from my local tackle shop....he suggested using at least 30lb power pro. He said that 20lb is really thin and can groove the eyes. 10X STRONGER THAN STEEL But what about...? Older, first-generation superlines were made of abrasive aramids that could cut rod guides and take a toll on equipment. PowerPro solves these problems through super slick, non-abrasive Spectra Fiber composition and unique EBT processing. Other complaints about superlines arose simply because the technology was so new, and few people knew how to take proper advantage of it. The Using PowerPro quick guide takes the mystery out of using a superline and guarantees a satisfying fishing experience from the first cast! I have powerpro on alot of my reels and have used it for a couple years now.. never one instance of this.. That said Quality Rods = Quality Guides. G Edited May 21, 2008 by Gerritt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 i think you guys are jumping to conclusions without knowing what happened re: stoty. how exactly did the line break on the casts? a backlash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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