jedimaster Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 OK, so I have been thinking about how to arrange something, and everyone knows that a single complaint and a single call to the MnR will never likely result in an arrest, charge or even the MnR leaving there office. What I am proposing is to have a pool of phone numbers similar to a no bus day at school when parents used to phone other parents. Designate 2 or 3 people as heads and each of them have a few phone numbers along with a list of 3 or 4 other numbers, each of those numbers will have 2 or 3 people's number and a few of those have a few more etc... Then when you see a fishing crime, phone the head number and that person passes the details to the others and so on and everyone individually phones the MnR and reports the incident, maybe a raft of 50 calls on an incident will cause the MnR to get up off there chair. Since one call doesn't seem to work. What do you guys think? This would give one phone number to distribute to everyone to start the chain of events.
BITEME Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 GOOD IDEA BUT EVERYONE ELSE IS JUST HERSAY OK, so I have been thinking about how to arrange something, and everyone knows that a single complaint and a single call to the MnR will never likely result in an arrest, charge or even the MnR leaving there office. What I am proposing is to have a pool of phone numbers similar to a no bus day at school when parents used to phone other parents. Designate 2 or 3 people as heads and each of them have a few phone numbers along with a list of 3 or 4 other numbers, each of those numbers will have 2 or 3 people's number and a few of those have a few more etc... Then when you see a fishing crime, phone the head number and that person passes the details to the others and so on and everyone individually phones the MnR and reports the incident, maybe a raft of 50 calls on an incident will cause the MnR to get up off there chair. Since one call doesn't seem to work. What do you guys think? This would give one phone number to distribute to everyone to start the chain of events.
jedimaster Posted October 2, 2007 Author Report Posted October 2, 2007 I dunno, there has to be something we can do to stem illegal poaching.....
Guest lundboy Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 Better yet, sneak over and let the air out of all of their tires while they are poaching! Maybe the MNR COs are just not getting there fast enough. You know, having to raise some money first for gas, wait for a staggered shift to come their way etc. This way it gives them plenty of time to get there before the poachers leave!
tonyb Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 Maybe tell them you've been shot... It reminds me of that joke when the guy calls in about someone breaking into his home and the operator says they've dispatched an officer but they are all busy and it will take a long time...so he calls back and says he shot the burglar, then suddenly there are 5 cruisers pulling up within minutes...the officer says 'I thought you said you shot the burglar' and the guys says ' I thought it was going to be a long time'...something along those lines anyay Joking of course... Tony
Wes Bender Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 Kinda reminds me of the ole......"pissst, the colour is blue, pass it on" by the time it gets to the last person the colour is... "a ford mustang flew off the bridge" Good idea but stories have a way of getting twisted out of shape the more they are told. I like the letting the air out of the tires idea, only if your sure the tires belong to the poacher and not another law abiding angler. If I returned to my truck with no air in the tires. People would get thrown in the lake. haha
carp-starter Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 Oh boy. This reminds me of a program that was on TV a long time ago - "The Forest Rangers". It was about a bunch of kids who somewhere in Northern Ontario ran around the country side catching bad guys or helping to catch bad guys and at the same time getting into trouble. carp-starter
jedimaster Posted October 2, 2007 Author Report Posted October 2, 2007 If you want you could run past them screwing "holy poop the MnR is hear everyone run for your lives!!!!"
lazybum Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 I'd tell them that the fish is full of toxins and they will get cancer.
caper Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 If you want you could run past them screwing I'm not sure how that will stop the poaching!
douG Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 I have trouble with that even standing up let alone at a dead run.
ecmilley Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 well you can always just phone the cops, they can and will lay charges under the fish and game act
Whopper Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 I have trouble with that even standing up let alone at a dead run. That's funny stuff, glad to see some humor in such a dark subject.
Fishnfiend Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 well you can always just phone the cops, they can and will lay charges under the fish and game act Have you done it?
BFSC Kevin Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 If you want you could run past them screwing HAHHAHA.. thats too funny, oh you guys! haha kevin
Milty Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 (edited) why not say something to the poachers? I have many many times,...they usually leave,...I have also gone so far as to cut lines,.. or you could stand there and call the OPP and let them know you are calling,..see if they stick around,...Education works well to for the right crowd,..bring a net and land the fish for them and then let it go,...if you beleive in 'Anti-poaching',..stand up for it!!! PS,..not advocating violence or anything,...just read that other post that is now locked,....I believe the incident happened in Sutton? I lived near there for a brief period of time,..interesting place...lol.....and they dont much like anyone from outside of georgina in there stomping ground,..in the summer,...if your drivers license says your from georgina,..its free to park by the beach,...however if it doesnt,..they charge u like $40 or something crazy to park,..then if you go to the beach you will quickly realize most of the visitors are not from Georgina. PSS,..on the education front,..maybe NOT having ads on websites like this saying....'bag a freezer full of walleye everytime you go fishing',..may help,...im not sure thats sending the right message!!! Edited October 2, 2007 by Milty
PatrickGG Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 MNR don't have enough money to pay somebody to be on call and we have the federal government to blame what they need to have is volunteers on call that would be able to give out fines thats if they really care and if they are up to the task.
KyleM Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 Why not shoot them with waterguns. Or if they are wading in a pool take a leak upstream........make sure they see you doing it though.
Muskieman Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 I'M NOT POKING THE HORNETS NEST .... with the technology of today a cell phone can go a long way in court... it can take a picture .. film a videoclip... serve as proof to time and date ... has a trackable signal ... and better yet can be used as phone to call for help or to REPORT A POACHER .. I reasoned with a few out of town poachers this spring... i explained to them that this was my hometown water and that fishing was closed...if it would have been open i would be fishing right beside them...and that the regs book was in plain view sitting on a tackle box...it was a sanctuary . they had a cage full of fish from walleye ,white bass, catfish , and some suckers... I was called a , Trailer Trash Redneck and was told to go get myself a fresh bag of CRACK..and was i gonna pay for their gas back to Oakville .and to leave them the F alone.. so I did for about 10 minutes I then came back with my freind Rick he's the local C/O... In the meantime i told Rick what had just happened... he proceeded to lay 3 charges per person..them told them politely that they would have to pay their own gas to and from Oakville because they now had a court date... took their gear and fish and put it in the box of his truck. : I then received a Handskake and a MNR keychain.. not to mention the satisfaction of having made a little dent in the poacher population
Milty Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 I'M NOT POKING THE HORNETS NEST .... with the technology of today a cell phone can go a long way in court... it can take a picture .. film a videoclip... serve as proof to time and date ... has a trackable signal ... and better yet can be used as phone to call for help or to REPORT A POACHER .. I reasoned with a few out of town poachers this spring... i explained to them that this was my hometown water and that fishing was closed...if it would have been open i would be fishing right beside them...and that the regs book was in plain view sitting on a tackle box...it was a sanctuary . they had a cage full of fish from walleye ,white bass, catfish , and some suckers... I was called a , Trailer Trash Redneck and was told to go get myself a fresh bag of CRACK..and was i gonna pay for their gas back to Oakville .and to leave them the F alone.. so I did for about 10 minutes I then came back with my freind Rick he's the local C/O... In the meantime i told Rick what had just happened... he proceeded to lay 3 charges per person..them told them politely that they would have to pay their own gas to and from Oakville because they now had a court date... took their gear and fish and put it in the box of his truck. : I then received a Handskake and a MNR keychain.. not to mention the satisfaction of having made a little dent in the poacher population That is absolutely Incredible,...good for you for not losing your cool at the snide comments,...I dont know if i would have had the patience,..but then again I dont have a CO for a buddy,..never even seen one in fact,...good to hear charges were laid,..dont hear that very often compared to what goes on!!!
Muskieman Posted October 2, 2007 Report Posted October 2, 2007 This is a small northern town ..kinda like Cheers everyone knows your name... As for being patient ,well more nervous that patient ,there were 4 grown and angry men , 2 of whom were bigger than me...but i was smarter...
holdfast Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 I like Miltys Idea with saying something to them, maybe even showing them the regulations. As far as going around and secretly taking pictures and calling the authorities without confronting the poacher only shows me that you have no balls and kind of reminds me of of the sneaky neighbor that phones the cops for any type of complaint and then denies it. Wouldn't it irk you, especially if you might be the one in the wrong. But I agree, something has to be done, especially with our ever growing population.
tjsa Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 Oh boy. This reminds me of a program that was on TV a long time ago - "The Forest Rangers". It was about a bunch of kids who somewhere in Northern Ontario ran around the country side catching bad guys or helping to catch bad guys and at the same time getting into trouble. carp-starter lol how old are you carp-starter???????????? Never mind, I digress, I remember that program also, lol. I do not get confrontational with many people, occasionally make mention of possible transgressions on their part, with regards to regulations, but have never gotten into any heated confrontation with anyone about it. And, glad I did not. Yup, if you can do so, take pictures, and if you can identify their vehicle, take a pic of the license plate, and forward the info to the MNR tips line. Some amazing things can come out of those simple things, without confronting the individuals directly. I spotted some stuff posted on Youtube a few months back, and went.........hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Reported it to the MNR, and they are presently still investigating it, it takes a bit. The person may not be charged, but they will certainly be aware from now on of their transgression of the law, and the fact that they actually videotaped themselves doing it. Probably just means they won't bring the video camera along the next time, or post it on Youtube if they do, lol.
carp-starter Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 tjsa stated --- lol how old are you carp-starter????????????Never mind, I digress, I remember that program also, lol tjsa, I am old enough to remember that the program was on TV just about 2 months ago when it was terminated. It was being shown on Sun TV, CKXT here within the Cogeco area (Burlington, Oakville etc). Sun TV is showing other old TV shows in the afternoon during the week. How old are you since you must remember the time it was show originally? Have a nice Thursday - carp-starter
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