OK, first off, I believe manitou bass added Sudbury to his list at my suggestion
Oldironworker..I grew up SE of Broadview and Gerard..DeGrassi St if you can believe it.
W Dunker
I did 2 stints in Sudbury for about 6 months each...needed weeks for pokie
In the winter staying in a motel, I used to fill a cooler with snow to keep my coffee cream and a couple of beverages cold..the grease and soot from that snow torned the inside of a white cooler a black gooey mess...had to toss it out. Its the only city in the country that has bi yearly conferences to bring your car in and get a voucher for a free paint job because the fallout ate the paint off it.
Summer, it is the dirtiest city I have ever seen and the roads are the worst anywhere.
You have to drill and blast to have a basement or sewer line...need I go on?
Oh yeah..the traffic...I would rather drive in Toronto during gay pride weekend