I know what you mean Lew...One year after we moved up here, all 10 poplar trees out back died (only good for 30 years)(planted in '72) As they were the cylindrical type I watched as they felled each and every one... Those 2 guys could drop a tree on a dime...for an extra hundred dollars they cut them up into 15" logs which a neighbor and I then split up into firewood with his splitter...