Dutch01

......and nothing with cotton. Get a pair of Under Armor base layer pants and a thick fleece track pant. Not something cheap from Walmart, a performance fleece from Columbia (or a cheaper comparable quality brand). I can be out in March or November and stand in the river a long time without getting cold using that setup.

I have a pair of Streamside Guardian waders and I have been very happy with the product and the company. I used my first pair for almost two years. I patched one hole in the foot with the included patch kit - I had bought very cheap wading boots at Canadian Tire and they wore a hole in the sock foot. That's not really on Streamside, and they were otherwise great. At just about two years old, they did spring a leak near the seam between the sock foot and the leg. I called Streamside and they said they have a two year warranty and they replaced them with a newer style (that had a different seam btw) with no hassle. Went to their place in Markham and did a straight exchange, easy-peasy. The replacement pair is over a year old now and going strong, and I've put a fair number of miles on them. I think they were around 180 at Gagnon's. I will be buying these again when my current pair needs replacing.

My main kayak fishing buddy is going on 3 weeks now in the ICU at Scarborough Centenary Hospital. He was unfortunately against the vaccine, and has since told me via one of our few text exchanges that he wishes he had gotten it. If they take him off oxygen his blood oxygen drops, so there's likely some damage, and no way to know if it's permanent. I was already distancing more than most and I'm doubling that now. Hope you get things sorted out @DRIFTER_016

The three greatest lies ever told: 1) I will respect you in the morning 2) The cheque is in the mail 3) I'm from Canada Post and I'm here to help you

Absolutely nothing.

I did not ignore that part, it was included in my quote. Taking it out of context would have meant removing that part of the quote. Your point was heavy on a) this affects the old and b) why aren't we doing more about drug overdoses. a) It affects the old and the young. And the old aren't worth less than the young. b) It is not binary. We are doing a lot (and could do more) about drug overdoses. We can do two things at once. People dying of drug overdoses is not a reason to let COVID run rampant because lockdowns "DON'T work" according to you. (Again, your quote and your capitals) @scuro2has diligently and accurately argued that lockdowns do in fact work and I am in agreement. It is easy to say what we should do when we have no education in the matter (how many epidemiologists are members of this board?) and no data to drive good decision making. There are too many YouTube experts here. We have Public Health departments for a reason. You have already said you are moving to Florida because Ontario has gone insane, so you are right, "there is no point discussing this." But here we all are, arguing politics on a fishing board with a no political posts rule...

Again - "only ever" is close enough to "ever just" to me. You don't like that, okay then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

"Almost every single..." was definitive enough for me, whether you appreciate me quoting you or not. I didn't put words in your mouth, I directly quoted you.

You're barking up the wrong tree here, I have no interest in splitting hairs on this board. A question was asked and answered, if you don't like the answer given feel free to disregard it. Dutch

I believe he is, but that was not the point of my post. You asked "Who said it was ever just taking older people?" and I answered.

@Rizzo "Almost every single covid death I have seen has been in people 80 and over...and almost every one of those, the family told me the person was in very poor health as it was. In other words, they were already near the end of their life. I think I have only seen one under the age of 70 (that person was 69, and also in poor health)."

I am in the Logistics business (including moving air freight). Most air freight flies on commercial passenger planes. It's generally not economically viable for an airline to fly without one or the other.

You should save this for future use

That's pretty cool actually. I'm good for a truck for a long time but if that had been around when I was shopping it might have made a difference.

Everyone in Canada obeys laws to one extent or another. Some people speed, some don't. Some people are obeying the stay at home order, some are not. I'm not sure how that puts you in any position to judge crappieperchhunter for making their own choice.