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I don't know $60,000.00 per person times 10 people is $600,000.00 . One bomb costing $600,000.00 any more than 10 kills makes it a good way to save money. Just trying to lighten this up a little. The thing about these types of discussions is they are all argued in black and white and no shade of gray is acceptable. A little give on both sides is most likely going to be the correct answer. Art

To date the USA has 64 pacts to go to war with our allies if they are attacked. That in itself is reason to show and provide support when it is needed. If we break one pact where does it stop? Will others decide well you didn't help the French when they asked why help you now when you needed it. Sometimes battles are chosen for you from past commitments. The flood of immigrants in Canada affects the USA because they share a relaxed boarder and if Canada does not screen the immigrants correctly then they have an easy path to the USA who also needs to be vigilant as well to protect Canada's interests. Like it or not we share a land mass that is easily breached. The isil has stated that they will use the influx of people to increase the cells that are already here by infiltrating the countries with the masses. The other fact is even if someone comes in with nothing more than propaganda they can convert from within once given access to the country. War is War it isn't pretty it is a battle to put down the opponent to spend what it costs in men and money to reach an objective. In this case it is to stop a force that will do anything to harm people. When you are fighting this type of battle where one side has rules and the other doesn't then you expend more men and money than is needed. I am a bring a gun to a gun fight type of person you mess with my country my country had better come back at you twice over. Humanitarian efforts start after the battle is won not while it is being fought. Art

I have been a member of US boat for years and with their tow program and insurance policies they have protected me 100%. They also watch the government and advise on laws and their effects on the boaters of America. Art

With the unrest unchecked it will spread. The idea of ignoring or hoping peace will overcome evil is not a realistic expectation from a rotted seed. The soldiers of the world who live and die for your peace paid with their time in the forces and some with their lives. We all need to respect their sacrifice and to not let their deaths be in vain just because we don't feel the evil will reach our personal lives. You have as much chance of levitating a glass of water as wishing Isil will become peaceful. I will stop here with the hope that we appreciate our people in the military and support them in their mission that gives you the safety and the ability to stay at home and wish for peace. Disheartened by the lack of support of our military Art

Come on down it was shorts and t shirts yesterday lol. Art

So sad Maureen to go in their sleep is for the best. Art

Ha ha you all got snow........ Art

I would take you up on the offer but I think you will run out of battery before you got to my house in Virginia USA. Art

Place deet anywhere except exposed skin. Works like a champ and you will not have to worry about how toxic it is. Art

i am sticking to the deet 100. Art

Mystery solved I am going to lock this as per the OPoster has asked. Art

So we all can say thank you thank you and thank you for working almost all night getting the site back up to the amazing Mr. Roy. Thanks Roy you are the best head cook and bottle washer in the world. Art

No Brian he is fully active but has not logged in to the site since the October 15. Art

His last log in was 15 October. His # is not on file Sorry Art

I can see how that would get rid of hotspots and prevent the cooking of the brain. Art

good to hear. Art

Hats off the person who though of that. Thanks for sharing Art

I bring you the unofficial OFC tinfoil hat modeled by our own Randy. He will be shipping themout on request and 50% of the profit will go to Solving all of the worlds problems. Thanks Randy you da man Art

send em to me I know you got quite a few tinfoil hat photoslol. Art

So will anyone buy an official OFC tinfoil hat if we decide to sell them. I am reading such a variety of beliefs that are so conflicting that the truth is we have no idea which way the world will go. It all depends on your level of research and what sources you believe. The sad part is one of us is right we just will never know who until it is to late. Art

Some of it is content some times it is implied content. Sometimes it might even be I smoked a joint but I did not inhale........ Art

Really why would you think this is acceptable? Art

While a good thought I have lots of other things to do so i rely on people having a clue who they are. My intent is to not micro manage this forum it is to take about a half hour a day and nudge it back on course when the rules are being ignored. All of the owner/mods donate their time to keep this place alive because of what it has turned into, a community of our and your friends. We have very wide parameters on subject matter and we rely on people to be civil at at all times. in the heat of debate it sometimes gets forgotten rather than just automatically locking it ( the easy road ) we try to get it calmed down with a gentle word and most of the time that is enough. I had two P.M.s from members concerned they were the issue the answer was no but keep it civil . Thanks Art

I am sorry to hear this please be careful we hate to lose people enjoying the outdoors. art

I refrain from naming names if you think you are guilty assume you are. Personal comments general besmearing someones opinions are to be avoided. Telling someone their opinions are wrong is not a part of a debate. Truthfully I have no problem with debating this off fishing topic we all seem to be having fun and it is getting some facts as well as some fantasies corrected. Thanks Art