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There is simply no logical reason to have ethanol in our fuel, full stop. You and I know that Wayne as do many other sentient beings. It's totally BS virtue signalling nonsense!

I don't care what it says on their pump. Prior to this new mandate that everything has to have renewable fuel in it I bought regular at Shell for misc items in the yard while I was also getting premium for my old cars. That regular damn near destroyed my 3 year old Kubota mower. As you can see further up in this thread I know full well how to test for Ethanol, the regular I got had about 21% in it !

A quiet icon in ways but well heard. RIP, he WILL be missed!

In early 2000s I was working on a Fishing Ontario Tourism publication with John Kerr and we exchanged many emails for his input. My cousin was his assistant at the Aurora Ministry office. Very pleasant man to deal with.

This is a very sad and great lose to the Simcoe fishery. Wil did so much for it. He was the kind of guy that would talk to anyone. It was like you were long time friends ,even if you never met him before. RIP Wil

It actually has more to do with the Agricultural Political Lobby Group than anything else. Farmers are paid top dollar for corn that otherwise there wouldn't be a market for...we can only eat so many Corn Flakes. Don't expect the other party to do anything differently...they all want the rural votes. In fact, in the US the Republicans are the biggest supporters of ethanol production...it's the "red states" like Iowa and Nebraska (corn country) that are the grass roots of the party. The "better for the environment" is just political spin. The process of turning corn into ethanol actually produces more carbon and greenhouse gasses than it saves. Farmers spend millions of $$$ supporting candidates that mandate the minimum ethanol levels. It's all about Old MacDonald had a ....

Edzacery Chris, it's a smoke and mirrors show that is doing more damage than good, but we can't go political here!

If you are running gas through it regularly you won’t have much of an issue, it’s when the fuel sits that it starts collecting water and corroding stuff. Four strokes are nowhere near as bad as two’s but if you are letting the motor sit for over a month I’m going to suggest putting stabilizer in all of the gas you use. It’s effectively all you can do now that they’ve gotten rid of ethanol free gas i personally just run ethanol free as much as humanly possible, so sometimes in the middle of summer when I’m doing a lot of hours in the boat it’s not as much of a worry, but I’m sure to load up with marine ethanol free gas at curve lake every time I’m in the area. At the end of the year I try to ensure my last tank of gas is totally ethanol free and stabilized

I met Will a long time ago at Erieau just outside Chatham on Lake Erie. He was there to fish with Bob Izumi and his brother Wayne. They were born in Blenheim. He was a nice guy/ Very friendly!

RIP Will

The biggest thing with ethanol fuel is that it loves absorbing moisture, which we all know. My Honda 40hp had three carbs on it. If that motor sat for anymore then 2 weeks it was a complete dink to start. The fuel in the carbs (less then an ounce per-carb) are open to the atmosphere (all carbs need atmospheric pressure to function) and the ethanol fuel would go stale that fast. If I drained the carbs after using the motor for a day of fishing. The next time I would go out, I'd use the primer bulb to refill the carbs and that motor would start right up. I did also use Seafoam in every tank of fuel. The fuel in my sealed tank would stay good because I made sure that the fuel tank cap was actually working and sealing the tank when there was no draw from the motor. In other words a bit of prevention and a regiment of maintenance is all you need to deal with ethanol fuel. A lot of onboard fuel tanks have a fuel tank vent that is open; we've all seen it at the gas stations, where gas would spill out the vent when the fuel tank was full. That fuel in the tank is exposed to the atmosphere, depending on how humid it is that fuel can go stale if not used right away. We don't see this problem of stale fuel in the automotive industry. Emissions standards (no hydrocarbons are allowed into the atmosphere) require the fuel delivery systems to be completely sealed. It is called the evaporative emission control system (EVAP). This system works only with fuel injected motors. They don't need air pressure to atomize the fuel and can have sealed systems. At the end of this long post all I can advise is keep the fuel, you're using away from the air as much as possible... Just a side note and a bit of humor. My neighbor next door to me at the trailer park, buys a 2 gallon can of gas every spring. It's nicely sealed not to spill in his car. He opens the can, puts the pour spot on and fills his lawnmower; but leaves the gas can open for the rest of the season. A few weeks later he doesn't understand why the mower is hard to start and if it did start, it ran like a bag of crap. I'd go over drain the fuel tank and carb and then put gas in from my sealed can. Two or three pulls and it starts and runs like new. He doesn't understand why his fuel is bad. "I'll never buy gas from that place again" NO buddy seal you gas can!!! Dan...

Be careful going to lower grades "just because everything now has ethanol". Shell's regular is the worst for ethanol percentage, or at least it was, as to get the 10% average mandated previously across their sales (and having none in their premium) the regular can and will have over 20% ethanol in it. Damn near destroyed my Kubota riding mower running it after it softened the float needle seat so much it buggered it up and filled the entire engine with fuel.