Doctrt Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Hey Guys, I'll be camping at Kiosk Campground at the top of Algonquin in a few weeks. With portages into speck lakes looking like a difficult prospect (heavy canoe and no help) I've designed this electric motor bracket for the canoe that will double as a downrigger. It locks on to the canoe really well but I've yet to try the rigger. The lake there apparently has lakers down deep. Has anyone tried this before? I'd appreciate any suggestions or advice. Tim Edited August 26, 2014 by Doctrt
misfish Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Can you explain how it works? What are you using for line? How will you know how deep you are? Line counter on the reel? Interesting. Always inventing something as well. Cool idea. Edited August 15, 2014 by Misfish
fishnsled Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) I can see how this would work quite well and not too bulky. A line counter on your reel would give you a general idea of depth or marking the "ball" on the fishfinder would allow you to see if you are in the "zone". Could mount a line counter on the "rigger", would not need a heavy ball either. What are you using for release clips? A stacker clip might be a good option a couple of feet above the weight. Does this mount in front of you or behind you in the canoe? Might be concerned about the "rigger line" getting caught in the electric motor while trolling along. (nay need a longer "boom" to help keep it away from the motor) Would be nice to see some pics of it rigged on the boat. It is a cool idea! Edited August 15, 2014 by fishnsled
dave524 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 Personally I wouldn't use a downrigger off the side of a canoe unless it was equipped with an outrigger, especially one with a longer boom.
Freshtrax Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 Nice craftsmanship. Mi wouldn't be too concerned about the weight off the canoe use a 5 lb ball. Make sure you post some restults
Doctrt Posted August 16, 2014 Author Report Posted August 16, 2014 Thanks for the suggestions and replies. The idea of checking the ball depth with the fishfinder should work well. I've also considered marking the line (using white out or nail polish) every ten feet. I have a small rigger ball (not sure of the weight but its the next size down from the standard size, I think about half as heavy). It should work fine as the rigger line is low diameter (100lb power pro) and the motor won't move me too fast. I plan on using (and have in the past) used standard rigging clips, and I may use a stacker, although I don't want to over-complicate things. As far as the outrigger suggestion goes and getting it caught in the motor, I don't think it will be necessary. As you can see the motor mounts on the left side of the mount in the picture and the rigger line threads though the loops to the opposite side. The torque placed on the boats axis by the trolling motor is actually minimal considering how heavy it is, likely because of how far towards the back of the canoe it sits (behind me). Any weight of the rigger ball, will only act to offset this torque as it sits on the opposite side. I'll set the drag on the reel loose enough for safety purposes. I will look into buying a small line counter. I think it would be cool to use. I hope to have something to post when we get back, if nothing more than that it worked. Tim
misfish Posted August 16, 2014 Report Posted August 16, 2014 Cool I look forward to your feed back. Good luck.
Joeytier Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 I would not bother with the rigger. A couple guys i know grew up on the lake and dont fish much deeper than 40-50 feet down year round. You will be fine with 1.5-2 oz bell sinker on a 3way rig or just a keel sinker
Doctrt Posted August 26, 2014 Author Report Posted August 26, 2014 I managed to find a Cannon Downrigger (20$ at a garage sale) to sub for the makeshift one that I had made. Now that I'm all set up, does anyone have any info on the lake (Kioshkokwi). Recommendations on lure choices, depths, or locations (for lakers) is what I'm looking for. Thanks in advance. Tim
Joeytier Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 Buy a bait needle and thread a (dead) minnow onto a gangtroll
LucG Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 Buy a bait needle and thread a (dead) minnow onto a gangtroll Exactly what Joeytier said. This has really worked well for me on that lake. I was using frozen herring. However I mainly use and steel line setup. at the end a 5-6" spoon, rigged with bait. The key is the threaded trailer hook that not only helps keep the bait on your hook, but helps hooking the short striking fish. Make sure the bait your using hasn't gotten all "mushy" other wise it'll have a hard time keeping it on your spoon. I have even done well using a spoon alone, no bait. Good luck!
Doctrt Posted August 26, 2014 Author Report Posted August 26, 2014 Am I allowed to use dead bait on that lake? If so, what size herring were you using and where can I pick some up?
LucG Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 I was using about 6" herring. I'm pretty sure you aren't aloud live bait in Kiosk, I could be wrong. I bought mine at Billy Bob's on Lakeshore Dr in North Bay.
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