mike rousseau Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 that begs the question as to whether what happened to them was unforeseen... there's a difference between getting caught in an unfortunate circumstance and putting yourself in one. if that makes me "un-canadian" then so be it. i'm moving to Logic-istan. i mean if my fishing accident i may encounter is truly unforeseen... by making these people pay...it will make it easier and easier for the government to pass judgment saying you were not using good judgment... then maybe some day all rescues in canada will have a hefty price tag attached to it...
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 if an accident is truly unforeseen i don't expect people to pay. this was far from unforeseen.
richyb Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 They are claiming $200/hr for the air boat and $100/hr for each volunteer firefighter. I doubt that boat is burning that much fuel and I know for a fact the firemen do not earn that amount of money. I thought they were just wanting to recover the cost?
Dara Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 if an accident is truly unforeseen i don't expect people to pay. this was far from unforeseen. To you it was unforeseen The first guy out there didn't think of it...the second didn't either...the ones after that said, hmm,,,they are out there, it must be safe enough. How can you say that many people were wrong if it was so easily foreseen
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 to me, it was completely foreseen. standing on the ice after unseasonably mild weather near open water on a windy day? hahaha... if you think that's logical then it's your funeral. just don't expect me to pay for it.
Dara Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 to me, it was completely foreseen. standing on the ice after unseasonably mild weather near open water on a windy day? hahaha... if you think that's logical then it's your funeral. just don't expect me to pay for it. There was no funeral...they got rescued
Dara Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 to me, it was completely foreseen. standing on the ice after unseasonably mild weather near open water on a windy day? hahaha... if you think that's logical then it's your funeral. just don't expect me to pay for it. And look where it happened. This is the first year in a long time that we haven't seen a picture of a sunken parking lot coming from that bunch
Dan668 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 Definitely foreseeable. Put all the factors together. I wasn't on simcoe once cause of the crappy conditions. The one guy, was his third time being rescued. Nuff said, should have to pay.
Twocoda Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 next think you know we will have to pay for eye exams for the last two years we do....125 bucks if they renamed the fine to Stupidity then im sure we would all sit back and chuckle at the people that got the fines....furthermore they should start a club of fined participants BB i see your point for sure....but SOMETIMES people need to be protected from themselves and this could be a deterring factor for those that arent capable of thinking properly
Skipper D Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 It sounds like Canada's Best Know it all in here but remember only one person wins , you all have seven more minutes to complete the debait for this posting , then i would like to have one of you pick our winner ..........................
Dara Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 It sounds like Canada's Best Know it all in here but remember only one person wins , you all have seven more minutes to complete the debait for this posting , then i would like to have one of you pick our winner .......................... debait? thats like, taking a worm off of your hook right?
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) debait? thats like, taking a worm off of your hook right? and if you remove a whole bunch of worms is it a "mass debait"? Edited March 29, 2012 by Dr. Salvelinus
Dara Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) ok, you owe me a keyboard Edited March 29, 2012 by Dara
Skipper D Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 What ever , i just know it can't be won ............... lol
Twocoda Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 and if you remove a whole bunch of worms is it a "mass debait"? Refreshing to know you do know how to pull your head out of your ASS once in awhile
Grimace Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) That was pretty funny Doc :-). Edited March 29, 2012 by Grimace
mike rousseau Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 wow... a debate that stayed clean... where valid points were made on both sides... and its going to jokes now.... spring is here :clapping:
Skipper D Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 ALL GOOD FUN............. THANKS EVERY ONE FOR THE GOOD READ , ok worms back on ..............
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 What ever , i just know it can't be won ............... lol there's no "winning" and there will never be any consensus on any opinion based issue. the only consensus today seems to be that people like double entendre.
Jer Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 If you start to charge people for rescue operations, you will now run the risk of people trying to rescue themselves to avoid paying for it. Well at that point, I guess Darwin kicks in.
capt bruce Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) WE are talking about 26 guys who had the missfortune of being blown offshore (Im sure theres a old joke there , EYE BILLY >> ) But there were probably 1,000 guys on the lake that day , in different areas that made it home without helocopter assistence .. WHAT ABOUT THEM ????? But this is comeing from a guy who one time put my car thru the ice on the bog late one year , lucky it was the bog 10 feet from shore , water only came up to the doors , climbed out windows , a winch and half an hour ,we were home free, stupid maybe but than again fished with over 100 guys in sight that day ... Stuff happens thats why we have a rescue squad, isnt it ??? Stop people from going out if its so unsafe and the township sure doesnt refuse the tax dollars that come from the timmies etc. in the area that the ice fishers go to , without icefishing that area in the winter would be dead , cant let people go out , even advertise that great winter get aways the area offers and than double tax the guys who YOU LET GO THERE and now things happen .. BAN ICEFISHING ON SIMCOE than you never have to worry about something like this .. Damn the gas stations in the area with the taxes they pay from silly people who fill up their tanks to get home more than pay for this ... BAN EVERYTHING WHERE THERE IS A CHANCE OF SOMEONE GETTING HURT >> Stay in bed guys .. OH NO some mattresses can cause back problams .. AHHHHH ... Edited March 29, 2012 by capt bruce
Twocoda Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) why is it when people see red flags flying in the summer time on any given great lakes beach they know not to go into the water because of undertow...does the government need to make a new DIFFERENT COLOUR flag for ice fishers when the ice isnt safe maybe they can get the MNR to post them for those that cant understand verbal warnings .....i do think restructuring the fines is in order though...if they fined each person the same value of their equipment they have with them it would seperate the novice to the experienced...hence educating the novice to the dangers and punishing the experienced for acting stupid.... Edited March 29, 2012 by Twocoda
davey buoy Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) why is it when people see red flags flying in the summer time on any given great lakes beach they know not to go into the water because of undertow...does the government need to make a new DIFFERENT COLOUR flag for ice fishers when the ice isnt safe maybe they can get the MNR to post them for those that cant understand verbal warnings .....i do think restructuring the fines is in order though...if they fined each person the same value of their equipment they have with them it would seperate the novice to the experienced...hence educating the novice to the dangers and punishing the experienced for acting stupid.... I like the idea of one free pass,if/only(you weren't aware) the waters or lakes were deemed unsafe and well warned in advanced. We all take chances from time to time but we have to find ways of making ourselves aware of what the day a head could be. Edited March 29, 2012 by davey buoy
Skipper D Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 why is it when people see red flags flying in the summer time on any given great lakes beach they know not to go into the water because of undertow...does the government need to make a new DIFFERENT COLOUR flag for ice fishers when the ice isnt safe maybe they can get the MNR to post them for those that cant understand verbal warnings .....i do think restructuring the fines is in order though...if they fined each person the same value of their equipment they have with them it would seperate the novice to the experienced...hence educating the novice to the dangers and punishing the experienced for acting stupid.... O' but can you amagin the air boat cost to put doe's tin ice signs out on da tin ice ,,,,,,,,,, LOL .
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