mike rousseau Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 its amazing how complicated they make it... that wiring looks overcomplicated to me for boat electronics... all those plugs and harnesses... glad you got her figured out Lew... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Always something stupid Lew... glad you got it figured out. Mine was too much plastic.. not enough throw... in the switch and after some trimming of the rocker it worked fine. MMike.. what's complicated.. one quick harness for speedy boat assembly. Keeps the costs down, that many of us whine about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnimon Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Lew, does your ignition key need to be in ACC. or RUN position for these things to work? If you're hotwiring and it's working...well....?? My thought exactly as roy meantioned. And another thing many people forget and I do as well. Did you properly check for ground at the horn. Or evern a continuity test on the ground wire. One thing I have come across with switchs like the one you postes, while undoing the nut, the switch tends to twist or turn, unknowingly aa wire can be pulled from a but connector with shrink tubing on it, and never realizing it. One other thing I have come across with that same type of switch, in which i do have one. Is that its a factory screw up. Mine has a red button and was specifically purchased to cut the power off of a pup engine for a crane. No blown fuse on your part so I see a bad ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerritt Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnimon Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 great its fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Always something stupid Lew... glad you got it figured out. Mine was too much plastic.. not enough throw... in the switch and after some trimming of the rocker it worked fine. MMike.. what's complicated.. one quick harness for speedy boat assembly. Keeps the costs down, that many of us whine about. until you have to troubleshoot something i prefer having a terminal strip with a power supply and 2 wires a red and black... one piece wire all the way to the electronic equipment... with a fuse depending on the equipment... very few connections... at the power and at the equipment... but im a big guy and dont like twisting into tight places and standing on my head with a flashlight trying to figure out what harness broke... but thats just me... i like things the easy way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tybo Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 its amazing how complicated they make it... Mike,you think that`s complicated.Don`t ever get into aircraft or heavy equipment.PLC system are even more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbouck Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Mike,you think that`s complicated.Don`t ever get into aircraft or heavy equipment.PLC system are even more fun. or elevators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tybo Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Off track. Whats the proper name for a electric horn. It`s called a claxton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Klaxton it actually at trade name for a digital horn Paul.. but I'll let you have it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Mike,you think that`s complicated.Don`t ever get into aircraft or heavy equipment.PLC system are even more fun. lol ive seen some pretty big complicated panels before...pretty intimidating...hundreds of wires... makes it hard to color code...lol im just saying... the wiring could be made way more simple then it is... i know... i rewired my lund front to back... now if something goes its super easy to figure out what happened... 2-3 steps....max...problem is solved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbouck Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Depends where you are cor in France, corn in Romania corn ffrengig in Welsh corno in Italy and Mexico, fa kuo how in Taiwan, Franse Horing in Afrikaans, hoorn or waldhoorn in The Netherlands, Horn or Waldhorn in Germany, käyrätorvi in Finland, Keren Yaar in Hebrew, Korno in Turkey, Kurnu in Malta, lesní roh in Czechoslovakia, lesný roh in Slovak, metsasarv in Estonia, trompa in Spanish and Portuguese, vadaszkürt in Hungary, valdhorn in Denmark, valthorn in Sweden, valtorn in Russia, valtorna in Lithuania waltornia in Poland, yuan how in Mandarin Chinese, and yuen ho in Hong Kong Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 or elevators Or car audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tybo Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Wayne,If I remember right. The Klaxon was invented a the beginning of the 20 century and ran off a battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 lol ive seen some pretty big complicated panels before...pretty intimidating...hundreds of wires... makes it hard to color code...lol im just saying... the wiring could be made way more simple then it is... i know... i rewired my lund front to back... now if something goes its super easy to figure out what happened... 2-3 steps....max...problem is solved... I rewired my Fisher as well. Instead of having wires all over the place behind my helm I now have 2 bus bars for + & - and all the fuses are accessible from the front of the console (they are located under the cover of my switch panel). I also installed 2 quick disconnects for the dash wiring so that dash removal is simple for any work that may need to be done in the future. The cover on the switch panel pops off to reveal the fuses. :good: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpike Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 HI LEW BOTH of the wires are the same colour . There for the wires are ethere hot with power or no power cold for ground. THE switch only closes the ciruit. its the same as if you put the two wires togethere. my guess is they are cold ground wires and are working a relay switch back under the dash. if you put power to them you will damage the relay.. so don't put power to them. if you put power to a ground relay it will weld its self closed and say closed some times if the power is to much. There is no doubt that the switch is just closeing the ciruit. BECAUSE THE WIRES ARE THE SAME COLOUR. I hope this will help you out SIR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tybo Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Depends where you are cor in France, corn in Romania corn ffrengig in Welsh corno in Italy and Mexico, fa kuo how in Taiwan, Franse Horing in Afrikaans, hoorn or waldhoorn in The Netherlands, Horn or Waldhorn in Germany, käyrätorvi in Finland, Keren Yaar in Hebrew, Korno in Turkey, Kurnu in Malta, lesní roh in Czechoslovakia, lesný roh in Slovak, metsasarv in Estonia, trompa in Spanish and Portuguese, vadaszkürt in Hungary, valdhorn in Denmark, valthorn in Sweden, valtorn in Russia, valtorna in Lithuania waltornia in Poland, yuan how in Mandarin Chinese, and yuen ho in Hong Kong Chinese. Forgot one Dan.Stuck in traffic. I`m going to shove that thing up where the sun doesn`t shine if you keep blowing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbouck Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Forgot one Dan.Stuck in traffic. I`m going to shove that thing up where the sun doesn`t shine if you keep blowing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bacon Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 remember ground is never to body of boat it will be to battery. Especially when it is a fibreglass boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 LOL John ! Complicated.. there's no such thing if you can keep your mind working! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbouck Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Complicated.. there's no such thing if you can keep your mind working! It can only work for so long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Been there.. done that. Wish I had some pictures of the PLC's from Consumers Glass, Milton, in the 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 You should see some of the server rooms I've had to work in Dan. They are like walk in versions of that!!! :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) I rewired my Fisher as well. Instead of having wires all over the place behind my helm I now have 2 bus bars for + & - and all the fuses are accessible from the front of the console (they are located under the cover of my switch panel). I also installed 2 quick disconnects for the dash wiring so that dash removal is simple for any work that may need to be done in the future. The cover on the switch panel pops off to reveal the fuses. :good: Great job on the rewire Dave, you appear to have as many gauges & switches as my boat but with only a fraction of the wires. I think the boat manufacturers could take a lesson from you. The square white disconnect plug in the bottom left of your picture is where my problem was. One of the wires coming from the switch pulled out of the plug just a tiny bit but the way it was situated I couldn't see it until I pulled it apart and turned it around. Edited March 25, 2012 by lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbuck Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Good work Lew!! Checking connections is always the first thing to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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