livinisfishin Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 Any body have or know of any problems with this type of motor? Also any ideas of what to look for before purchasing? I have checked out websites and talked to a few people with experience with used outboards but mroe opinions are appreciated. Thanks
shurik_muff Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 Any body have or know of any problems with this type of motor? Also any ideas of what to look for before purchasing? I have checked out websites and talked to a few people with experience with used outboards but mroe opinions are appreciated. Thanks first of all, i am not an expert. i will tell you how i got taken with one. i started the boat i bought on the parking lot. it run no problem after 3-4 tries. when i took it on the water, it run no problem. only when i wanted to go faster, in didnt go no where. basically, boat didnt go more than 5km/hr. i took it to mechanic in port perry. first thing they checked the compresion. the motor is nissan's, 3 cldr, 90hp. compresion on two cylinders was 140. on the middle one, it was 110. the way i was explained, compression should be close on all 3, with small difference. it took me 4 weeks to rebuild the motor with a friend of mine. cost us 1300 in parts. head guskets, cylinders, electrical. it was a great buy after everything was fixed, but i wouldnt go through it if i knew. also, see if head is not bended. if it is, you will spend a fortune to replace it. also, i drive only american cars. but a few fishermen with johnsons, mercury and etc not to happy. if you new, you wont have a problem for a while, but used are different story. just my 2 cents on the topic.
DRIFTER_016 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 My boat has a 90hp Merc (same vintage 91) that has been very good over the 20 years I have owned it. The only real things I have had issues with are an oil sensor in the oil resevoir died. The only service over the years has been lower unit oil changes and ne plugs and fuel filter. I have had issues with my controls lately (a bad wire somewhere) and I plan to replace the controls, but I'm trying to hold off until I can afford the new 115 four stroke to attach them to.
Terry Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 they were as good as any other motors if it's a private deal take it for a test drive and do a compression test if it's from a dealer they should give some type of guarantee
livinisfishin Posted March 25, 2011 Author Report Posted March 25, 2011 I have read multiple articles on compression testing and i did go out and buy a tester. Can someone familiar with compression testing on this style of merc give me some direction please.
vance Posted March 26, 2011 Report Posted March 26, 2011 I got this from http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=391323 1. Fully charge battery. 2. Start engine and warm her up. 3. Remove all spark plugs and disconnect fuel line. 4. Rig a jumper to engage starter solenoid without turning ignition on. Pull the emergency kill switch on rope start engines. 5. Screw gauge into #1. 6. Turn engine over until reading on gauge stops increasing or 5 times, whichever is more. 7. Repeat #5 for all cylinders. All psi readings should be within a 10-15% span. * It has no effect to open the throttle. * Don't get psi hysteria. Remember this is a 2 stroke engine and you are an amateur at compression testing. * Rope start engines will usually give lower psi readings than your know-it-all neighbor claims are required. Same for big JohnnyRude V6s _ vance
livinisfishin Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Posted March 26, 2011 I have read some that say do one plug at a time and leave the others in...thats why im kind of confused.Thanks so far!
spincast Posted March 26, 2011 Report Posted March 26, 2011 I have a 1990 4 stroke. Bought it used last year from a dealer. I had them compression test it and I did a sea trial with it from slow idle to wide open. Hasn't given me any problems so far (whats the emoticon for touch wood?) The compression test was not that expensive, and given the potential cost if something goes sideways, well worth the cost IMO. I looked a several forums and couldnt really find any recuurent problems listed. The guys at Proctor Marine are great - I'm sure if you called and explained your situation and asked what to look out for they'd be straight up with ya.
bubbles Posted March 26, 2011 Report Posted March 26, 2011 No offence but you have no idea what you are doing (neither do I) I would take it to a mechanic, pay him $50 to give it a once over for you. Then take it for a ride. I have a 197?? 50HP merc that has never let me down.
livinisfishin Posted March 27, 2011 Author Report Posted March 27, 2011 Anyone have any ideas how hard it would be to find a used power tilt assembly. The motor i am looking at is a manual tilt. So i would need a whole tilt unit.
Billy Bob Posted March 28, 2011 Report Posted March 28, 2011 Anyone have any ideas how hard it would be to find a used power tilt assembly. The motor i am looking at is a manual tilt. So i would need a whole tilt unit. Power tilt/trim units are expensive.....probably more than you will pay for the motor....but here's one for $599 http://www.cabelas.com/product/Boating/Boating-Outboards-Accessories/Power-Lifts-Trim-Tilt%7C/pc/104794380/c/104752980/sc/104512680/Panther-Marine-Motor-Tilt-and-Trim-and-Electro-Steer/701395.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fboating-boating-outboards-accessories-power-lifts-trim-tilt%2F_%2FN-1100538%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104512680%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104794380%253Bcat104752980&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104794380%3Bcat104752980%3Bcat104512680
livinisfishin Posted March 29, 2011 Author Report Posted March 29, 2011 I have had a couple offers but am not sure if they will work or not one was from a 90hp but i think it will be to big. The other one was off of a 1992 4 cylinder but im waiting to hear if it was a 50 it came off of.
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