GBW Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 I never thought I would ever read a blog on WFN on how to SNAG a fish! WFN Blog
Pikeslayer Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 I never thought I would ever read a blog on WFN on how to SNAG a fish! WFN Blog Yeppir. That's redneck fishing for ya . Right up there with 'noodlin' for catfish. I am somewhat shocked that that is allowed to posted on the WFN site. I clicked on 'report abuse' and the item was 'flagged'. Also saw your comment but I don't think laytoncc really gives a hoot.
TJQ Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 hes from Il.. and its say in the regs.. Lake Michigan Snagging A sport fishing license and Illinois salmon stamp are required for snagging. Coho and Chinook salmon only may be snagged from October 1 – December 31 at four locations in the Illinois waters of Lake Michigan. The daily bag limit for coho and Chinook salmon is 5 fish, singly or in aggregate. Every salmon 10 inches in total length or longer must be taken into immediate possession; sorting is not permitted. All fish other than coho and Chinook salmon must be returned to the water immediately. Snagging is only permitted at: Waukegan Harbor - north harbor basin only Winnetka Power Plant discharge area Lincoln park Lagoon – south of the Fullerton Avenue bridge Jackson Park Harbor – both inner and outer lagoons. No snagging is allowed within 200 ft of a moored watercraft or as otherwise posted. It is illegal to buy, sell, or barter any salmon or parts thereof (including eggs) taken by snagging.
GBW Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Posted January 11, 2011 hes from Il.. and its say in the regs.. I can’t believe they allow snagging there…
Roy Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 We can't really call it snagging.....the title calls it "snaging". I guess you don't need the big, extra deluxe diploma to be an ambassador eh?
SBCregal Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 seeing as how its legal there, maybe your comment on the site there should be removed?
danbouck Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 We can't really call it snagging.....the title calls it "snaging". I guess you don't need the big, extra deluxe diploma to be an ambassador eh? It went downhill fast on there.
GBW Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Posted January 11, 2011 seeing as how its legal there, maybe your comment on the site there should be removed? It won't let me. And, he said catfish not salmon.
danjang Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 He mentioned Mississippi river. It's probably legal there too. As for the lake Michigan snagging, it would appear that you have to take the fish home. I don't see anything wrong with taking fish using that method if you are going to take it home if it's legal. Clearly that law was not designed for sport fishermen. Only for those who want to bring home some meat to their family.
ADB Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 He mentioned Mississippi river. It's probably legal there too. As for the lake Michigan snagging, it would appear that you have to take the fish home. I don't see anything wrong with taking fish using that method if you are going to take it home if it's legal. Clearly that law was not designed for sport fishermen. Only for those who want to bring home some meat to their family. Oh dear... Let the debate begin.
GBW Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Posted January 11, 2011 TJ, Roy or any others can kill this post cause it's legal there and I didn't think it would be legal anywhere...
mercman Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 TJ, Roy or any others can kill this post cause it's legal there and I didn't think it would be legal anywhere... Don't sweat it buddy. I find it a bit unsportsman like myself. For me personally, it would take all the fun outta fsihin.
hammercarp Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 All sorts of "alternative methods" are allowed in the states. Snagging is just one. You can shoot spawning pike with a gun in Vermont. Spear fishing and I mean with a spear gun with or without scuba gear.
solopaddler Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 According to the regs TJ posted what he did was illegal. The Mississipi river is not lake Michigan and catfish aren't salmon.
danjang Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 According to the regs TJ posted what he did was illegal. The Mississipi river is not lake Michigan and catfish aren't salmon. Species of Fish and Snagging Catch Limit (1) Only the following species of fish (excluding endangered and threatened species) and catch limit may be taken by snagging: — Asian Carp (no live possession) - no catch limit, — Carp - no catch limit, — Buffalo - no catch limit, — Freshwater Drum - no catch limit, — Salmon (coho & chinook only) - 5 daily, of which not more than 3 may be of the same fish species, — Paddlefish - 2 per day, the maximum length limit for paddlefish taken from the Mississippi River between Illinois and Iowa is 33” eye-fork lenght (EFL) (all paddlefish greater than or equal to 33” EFL must be immediately released back to the Mississippi River). — Bowfin - no catch limit, — Gizzard shad - no catch limit, — Carpsuckers - no catch limit, — Longnose gar - no catch limit, — Shortnose gar - no catch limit, and — Suckers - no catch limit. (2) No sorting of snagged salmon and paddlefish is permitted, except for paddlefish taken from the Mississippi River between Illinois and Missouri where sorting is permitted. Every salmon 10 inches in total length or longer and paddlefish snagged must be taken into immediate possession and included in the daily catch limit. Once the daily limit of salmon or paddlefish has been reached, snagging must cease. Waters Open to Snagging and Snagging Season (1) Snagging for fish is permitted from September 15 through December 15 and from March 15 through May 15 within a 300 yard downstream limit below all locks and dams of the Illinois River, except for the area below the Peoria Lock and Dam where snagging is permitted year round. (2) Snagging for fish is permitted from September 15 through December 15 and from March 15 through May 15 within a 300 yard downstream limit below all locks and dams of the Mississippi RIver between Illinois and the Missouri, except for the Chain of Rocks low water dam at Chouteau Island – Madison County, also known as Dam 27 at the Chain of Rocks – Madison County where no snagging is permitted. Snagging is permitted from 1/2 hour before sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset daily, March 1 through April 15 within a 500 yard downstream limit below locks and dams on the Mississippi River between Illinois and Iowa, except the tailwaters of Lock and Dam 12 and 13 are closed to all fishing from December 1 through March 15. (3) Snagging for fish is permitted year-round within a 100 yard limit upstream or downstream of the dam at Horseshoe Lake in Alexander County. (4) Snagging for chinook and coho salmon only is permitted from the following Lake Michigan shoreline areas from October 1 through December 31; however, no snagging is allowed at any time within 200 feet of a moored watercraft or as posted: — Lincoln Park Lagoon from the Fullerton Avenue Bridge to the southern end of the Lagoon, — Waukegan Harbor (in North Harbor basin only), — Winnetka Power Plant discharge area, — Jackson Harbor (Inner and Outer Harbors) Disposition of Snagged Salmon and Paddlefish All snagged salmon and paddlefish must be removed from the area from which they are taken and disposed of properly, in accordance with Article 5, Section 5-5 of the Fish and Aquatic Life Code. From the Illinois fishing regulations 2010. It would appear that indiscriminate snagging is legal there since it's really hard to selectively snag. I don't think what he did was illegal. As for it being ethical as a SPORT fisherman. No. But I am accustomed to different laws. Some might even find the laws here in Ontario as equally what the hell.
TJQ Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 You can shoot spawning pike with a gun in Vermont Somehwere theres a video of them shooting them with old 303's.... man... lol.. i dunno... and — Asian Carp (no live possession) - nocatch limit, — Carp - no catch limit, — Buffalo - no catch limit, seems like they are encouraging getting rid of carp etc...
GBW Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Posted January 11, 2011 like I said, this can be deleted or locked as I don't see any good coming from it.
TJQ Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 Not to hikack the thread.. but check this out... just goes to show different strokes for different folks.... <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/4727630" width="400" height="300" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/4727630">Spearing and Shooting Grand Isle, Vermont</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1670627">Robert Maass</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
aplumma Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 Snagging is usually done on course fish like shad,carp,gar and bowfin. Since he was bragging about a catfish he snagged which is illegal it must be treated just as any fish caught OOS or illegally and returned to the water in a timely manner. The act of snagging is really no different than using gill nets as far as the control of what fish that you catch. Down here we also gig frogs, use impound nets for Stripers,noodling for catfish and gill net for gizzard shad. All of them are legal and in their place a tool to harvest the fish from the waters. Some of the methods are more regional like harvesting alligators and Nutra all are done using traps and guns in the South. If we looked at the way bears are hunted up North we could shock someone from the South and the Southern traditions of coon hunting would appall a lot of folks up North. These type of posts taken from the area were it is considered normal and brought to light in places were it is strange will sometimes offend the people where it is not common. Art
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