FLEX ROD Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 I have been hearing about a natural product called SierraSil 14 for Joint / Arthritis Pain, from what I am hearing this is really a product that seems to be helping people. This is not a post to promote the product this is a question has anybody used this product? If you have can you please provide any feed back, I bought it yesterday so I will see what happens they are claiming that you could see results in as few as 14 days. We will see, if anybody has any type of info please share. Thank you, FLEX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanook Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 [Dont know 'bout that product,but if it dont work, try Glucosamin with Chondroitin[?]Takes a while but has worked for me for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Celebrex works VERY well for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC1OZ Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Check out this site and go talk to your doctor! http://www.torontocompassioncentre.org/ ONE LOVE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenfshrmn Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Be careful with Celebrex. It is a very effective product and works well for me, but my doctor says you can only take it for 18 months before it can cause heart failure. I'm learning how to live with arthritis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC1OZ Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Be careful with Celebrex. It is a very effective product and works well for me, but my doctor says you can only take it for 18 months before it can cause heart failure. I'm learning how to live with arthritis! You should try some green...fisherman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchy Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) I'm learning how to live with arthritis! Unfortunately that is your only real option. My lab does some research on osteoarthritis and it is progressive so not much you can do about it in the long run. Despite what you might read, there is no cure or really effective treatment other than joint replacement. Medical grade weed is supposed to be effective, but you need to talk to you doctor about that one. It does relieve pain. Edited June 4, 2010 by Dutchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC1OZ Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Unfortunately that is your only real option. My lab does some research on osteoarthritis and it is progressive so not much you can do about it in the long run. Despite what you might read, there is no cure or really effective treatment other than joint replacement. Medical grade weed is supposed to be effective, but you need to talk to you doctor about that one. It does relieve pain. In no way do I think it would cure his issue, but at least life would be manageable with no pain. Talk to your doctor if you are just "living" with it and doing nothing to treat the suffering!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchy Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) In no way do I think it would cure his issue, but at least life would be manageable with no pain. Talk to your doctor if you are just "living" with it and doing nothing to treat the suffering!!! I wasn't even referring to your post. I was simply stating the current knowledge on OA and treatment. Its very hard to get rid of the pain depending on how severe the condition has become which is where joint replacement comes in. Many pain medications are a no go long term because they have several other side effects, some of which include heart damage. So learning to live with it is something you have to do. Now that I click the link in your post, yes, that is what I was saying. I was being serious, weed is an option for OA, they write prescriptions for it for OA sufferers everyday. Edited June 4, 2010 by Dutchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskieman Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) Funny that this thread and such answers has came up. I came back Toronto on Tuesday. I was there to escort a "client" of mine (Community Living) to an Orthopedic Surgeon's appointment Dr.Nizar Mahomed, at the Toronto Western Hospital for a consult on a total knee replacement(due to severe arthritis)... His surgery is scheduled for the 23rd of this month... I'll be escorting him again to translate and comfort him, during surgery "patient must be concious" :blahblah1: He ended up with a Rx for Synthetic Marijuana THC pills "Marinol" or the option of "Medical Marijuana". He chose the "MJ" since he's been self medicating for the past 15 years...He's 66. Randy Edited June 4, 2010 by Randy from Sturgeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC1OZ Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) Funny that this thread and such answers has came up. I came back Toronto on Tuesday. I was there to escort a "client" of mine (Community Living) to an Orthopedic Surgeon's appointment Dr.Nizrad Mahomed, at the Toronto Western Hospital for a consult on a total knee replacement(due to severe arthritis)... His surgery is scheduled for the 23rd of this month... I'll be escorting him again to translate and comfort him, during surgery "patient must be concious" :blahblah1: He ended up with a Rx for Synthetic Marijuana THC pills "Marinol" or the option of "Medical Marijuana". He chose the "MJ" since he's been self medicating for the past 15 years...He's 66. Randy Marinol is amazing! I'd quit smoking if I could get a legitimate prescription. I just need to find a more progressive doctor in the niagara region. I'm currently using a very VERY expensive drug (NEXIUM) to prevent my acid reflux symptoms.... street drugs are cheaper believe it or not. Edited June 4, 2010 by TC1OZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangePeal Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 I have sever arthritis in my shoulders. "Ultimate Glucosomine" has done wonders for my pain and mobility. It is a once a day powder which helps us old guys with a bad memmory. Safe Fishing First, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskieman Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) I have been hearing about a natural product called SierraSil 14 for Joint / Arthritis Pain, from what I am hearing this is really a product that seems to be helping people. This is not a post to promote the product this is a question has anybody used this product? If you have can you please provide any feed back, I bought it yesterday so I will see what happens they are claiming that you could see results in as few as 14 days. We will see, if anybody has any type of info please share. Thank you, FLEX We were also told by Dr.Mahomed(#1 Orthopedic Surgeon in Ontraio)that "Topical Analgesics" are a "Band Aid" solution and usually end up with a "Thermal" result like HOT or COLD. A5-35, Cold Heat, Lakota, Tiger Balm, are all "Band Aids" and relieve the pain temporarily .... these products are focused mostly on "athletic injuries" that are expected to heal not Arthritis which doesn't. He also recommended "Hydro Therapy" ..No,not electrocution but therapy exercises in "Tolerably Hot" water like a Jacuzzi... relief will be short lived but beneficial due to increased "blood flow". http://www.uhn.ca/media/faq/experts/medical/med_exp_mahomed.asp Randy Edited June 4, 2010 by Randy from Sturgeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchy Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Marinol is amazing! I'd quit smoking if I could get a legitimate prescription. I just need to find a more progressive doctor in the niagara region. I'm currently using a very VERY expensive drug (NEXIUM) to prevent my acid reflux symptoms.... street drugs are cheaper believe it or not. Have they told you why you have acid reflux? I am guessing you have had the camera shoved down your throat?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addymark Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Glucosamine sulfate is better than chondroitin sulfate because glucosamine is more readily absorbed than chondroitin. there have been multiple studies that had glucosamine compared with NSAIDS. these studies have shown no significant difference between the two products except that there are a lot less gastric ulcers as compared to nsaids. i would also recommend a fish oil product that contains DHA and EPA. these are fatty acids that will naturally decrease inflammatory prostaglandins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Be careful with Celebrex. It is a very effective product and works well for me, but my doctor says you can only take it for 18 months before it can cause heart failure. I'm learning how to live with arthritis! You are correct to say that Celebrex has to be taken with caution.....since I have Colitis, Celebrex is the only prescient drug that is strong enough and doesn't bother my stomach. I take it as needed and not daily as prescribed......My oldest son is a Dr so I confer with him on what I take.....for some, Celebrex may not be the correct treatment for them, depending on their personal circumstance. But for those with stomach/intestine problems, Celebrex is a God's send... Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gbfisher Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 I'm learning how to live with arthritis! Best answer so far. There are a few forms of the nasty Mr. Arther Itis. Most sever forms are dealt with very nasty expensive meds. Sometimes it takes months to even know if they work or not. If you have the disease, take the Meds prescribed to you and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smally21 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 i use a product called mobicox (meloxicam) and get significant releif from severe tendonitis. just another nsaid. also responds well to physical therapy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daplumma Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Best answer so far. There are a few forms of the nasty Mr. Arther Itis. Most sever forms are dealt with very nasty expensive meds. Sometimes it takes months to even know if they work or not. If you have the disease, take the Meds prescribed to you and hope for the best. Ding ding ding!Best answer yet.I have RA,not a good one to get.Some of the meds are no fun at all,the other ones eat your liver up and the next one is steroids.I have to take all three kinds for now.The "living with it" eats your joints and disfigures them and you.Rheumatoid is a bit different than Osteo,Its nasty and does not care if you are young or if you take care of yourself.It just sucks.Rheumatologists often treat stuff they dont understand,chasing ghosts thru a series of symptoms.There are offshoots of this autoimune disease that dont have names yet.The bottom line is that your body is attacking your joints.This is my second round with this crap,been in remission for 9 years.The meds are rough at times but the alternative is much worse.Celebrex saved me last time,there are many newer and better drugs now.If what you are taking does not work talk to your doctor.PM me if you want more info,mind you RA is a different creature tha Osteo joint pain. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikehunter Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 My R. knee was scoped last June to repair a meniscus tear and he also "cleaned up" some arthritis. I was off work quite some time for healing and pain. Went back to work and it is still painful. Went through a set of 3 synvisc shots at 455 bucks for some temporary relief. Supposed to have them every 6 months but the cost is hefty and my insurance pays just once a year but I am thankful for even that. Six weeks ago I had a cortisone shot and it felt almost new for about 5 weeks. Had another one this week and it feels pretty good until the end of a working day. At least it's easier to get up and go down stairs, but cortisone is not a solution. As for so called natural remedies I haven't much faith in those either, one study says yep they work, another says nope! Live with it is the alternative. And keep popping Advil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLEX ROD Posted June 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Thank you all for the feed back, I have lived with this for 16 bleepin years, 15 surgeries and at the end a tipple fussion so I have had a bit of a run with this. I am at this time on two new prescribed drugs and I finally got into Mount Sinia Wasser pain clinic and have an consultation on the 17th of June to see if I am a candidate for nerve block. All that I can do is pray and hope like heck that I am admited for the nerve block other wise I do not know what I will do, this year has just been the absolute worst and i had been off of work from late Feb to mid May, I just had to come back not that it is really any better yes the new drugs have helped a bit but their is always a price, not sleeping no appitite and so on, but still I guess that it is a inprovement. Any thanks for the feed back and keep your fingers crossed that they take me into the nerve block program. FLEX - John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleheader Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 I feel for anyone with severe arthritis. I myself have been battling psoriatic arthritis and osteoarthritis. No fun for sure. Currently I'm taking Humira, which is the 1st drug that seems to be helping. I still cannot walk long distances, but I can at least walk without limping and my fingers seem to be working a little better. I've also had multiple steroid injections in both shoulders and most recently in my lower back. My back feels great but who knows how long this will be effective. Good luck to all of you on your treatments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbuck Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Try NutriFlex from Naka. It's a health food store remedy that works for my knees which sing to me often. Several retired hockey players swear by it (Wendy Clark for one). Combined with fish oil rich in Omega 3 and 6 helps as well with the inflammation. Give it a try, it beats rotting your stomach with anti inflammatories, Advil, aspirin and the like. http://www.nakaherbs.com/pdf/nutri_flex_liquid.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 I have been hearing about a natural product called SierraSil 14 for Joint / Arthritis Pain, from what I am hearing this is really a product that seems to be helping people. This is not a post to promote the product this is a question has anybody used this product? If you have can you please provide any feed back, I bought it yesterday so I will see what happens they are claiming that you could see results in as few as 14 days. We will see, if anybody has any type of info please share. Thank you, FLEX hey go to sports store and buy the phiten rope necklace will be cheaper and help me with all knee and back pains i hadall the sports atheletes are wearing them now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisher Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) PENNSAID...you can thank me later. PENNSAID is a nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) for the treatment of signs and symptoms of osteoarthritis. Celebrez, is a pill and consequently goes through your entire system to treat the issue but it can cause stomach ulcers/bleeds, heart issues. Pennsaid instead is applied on the skin over the site of the problem. Although specifically indicated for the knee, your doctor can prescribe for other areas of your body. I have used it in the past even for my badly stubbed toe. It will work! Also, it is the only topical NSAID that has passed through FDA/Health Canada and also met the WOMAC study endpoints (a measure of the effectiveness of the treatment). Pennsaid.ca or Pennsaid.com Edited June 8, 2010 by fisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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