JohnF Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Again, shallow clear rocky bottom creeks. The rocks make it difficult to bounce off the bottom without getting wedged between the rocks. On the other hand I discovered that some of these will move through the water with a nice little wiggle if you can maintain the right speed on the retrieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richyb Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 They work great for smallies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbouck Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Work Great! Only tried in lakes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyb Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I like to rip 'em hard and fast....but in those clear creeks, that might be a bit too aggressive...either way, I've had good success with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocoda Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) The rattlin raps IMO are the only lure you need in your tackle....its like the rod ...you have to have it to catch fish ...you have to have the rattlins too.....they are sinking lures and are meant to be travelled at 8 feet under surface...you can however speed up your retrieval to get about 6 feet of travel....i have caught smallies bigmouths salmon bows browns musky and pike with them ...you might want to pick up the original shad rap (grey/white) as well The look and action of the lure attracts in clear water ( great action on them ).....when the water is dirty ....the bbs inside make the fish curious until they see it and then strike... ps if your looking to unload them ...let me know ( just the rapalas) @ 7 bucks a piece i have hundreds of them on the bottom of the saugeen....over the years Edited June 8, 2009 by Twocoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 at times they work great but other days they will not bite them I have found that on days fish are not biting anything, if I make about 10 cast with a rattle bait then put on a slow moving bait or plastic the fish will bite they seems to get the fish looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted June 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 The rattlin raps IMO are the only lure you need in your tackle....its like the rod ...you have to have it to catch fish ...you have to have the rattlins too.....they are sinking lures and are meant to be travelled at 8 feet under surface...you can however speed up your retrieval to get about 6 feet of travel....i have caught smallies bigmouths salmon bows browns musky and pike with them ...you might want to pick up the original shad rap (grey/white) as well The look and action of the lure attracts in clear water ( great action on them ).....when the water is dirty ....the bbs inside make the fish curious until they see it and then strike... ps if your looking to unload them ...let me know ( just the rapalas) @ 7 bucks a piece i have hundreds of them on the bottom of the saugeen....over the years I had the Shad Rap you're talking about until I sacrificed it to the Walleye gods down at Dunnville a few weeks ago. I've got a couple of other colours but forgot to get 'em in the pics. JF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cudz Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Right column, second from the bottom. That is all I am going to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMahon Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) I agree w/ Cudz....especially fishing the Thames, the crayfish colour lipless cranks work wonders on the smallies! But to sum it up, everything you've shown tonight will catch smallies, & pretty well every other fish around here! You got urself a good arsenal....the only other suggestions I have is to add a few spinnerbaits, & some plastics (tubes & grubs) to the mix...& most definately use some larger sized cranks & jerkbaits (size 8 & 10) as well! Oh ya, I also like to carry a few spinners with me too....just in case Edited June 9, 2009 by JMahon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Tidbit, if you are getting hung up alot, remove the front treble and replace it with a single upside down. Try without a body hook at all and see if you are getting a good hookset anyways too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Pike Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Funny, but the only time I've used lipless cranks has been on lakes. When river fishing, particularly shallower rivers like the middle and upper Grand and it's tributaries, I prefer floating plugs like Rapala minnows and Fatraps, etc. I find when you combine the shallower water with river current, it's kinda hard work the lipless cranks effectively and keep 'em from getting hung on the bottom. I realize ticking bottom with these baits can be a good trigger to get fish to hit, though, particularly if you're talking about clear, rocky stream situation. I find with floating plugs I can cover the same water much more easily( and effectively, I think ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted June 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 I agree w/ Cudz....especially fishing the Thames, the crayfish colour lipless cranks work wonders on the smallies! But to sum it up, everything you've shown tonight will catch smallies, & pretty well every other fish around here! You got urself a good arsenal....the only other suggestions I have is to add a few spinnerbaits, & some plastics (tubes & grubs) to the mix...& most definately use some larger sized cranks & jerkbaits (size 8 & 10) as well! Oh ya, I also like to carry a few spinners with me too....just in case Funny about that. I've been told they're good but I thought that was just in Louisianna. The durned things look cooked. How do bass boil their crawdads? But then I know that the colour red fades quickly to black in the water so perhaps the red is misleading. In any case I'll be trying them. I have a few red ones in different sizes. JF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thgen Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 I've never had much success with lipless cranks in shallow water. One lure that I've found to be pretty unbeatable is a 2" suspending hardbody minnow bait called a "Mystic minnow". I've always preferred the long, skinny cranks as opposed to short/fat. Tiny floaters like the "Crickhopper" can be alot of fun to fish as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMahon Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 They use to make a lighter colour crayfish colour, which I personally like better, but the newer darker colours still works fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted June 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Jeez! I wuz trying to narrow down the range of lures and what I'm getting are suggestions for even more to buy. This gearpigedness is gonna git me in real trouble on the home front. When fishing crap starts taking up as much room as my dive gear did in the day she'll take notice. Then it'll be just like when I tried to sneak a new bike into the garage. Who knew she could distinguish between them by the sound they made, sneaky b... ? Well, suffice it to say she was not easy to fool. The first time she found me trying to sneak a Yamaha into the garage she announced that she was getting her bike licence and riding too. That sucked. There's no way for two up on a Yammy dirt bike, especially with me as the passenger. I think that's why I had to buy the Triumph. JF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 All this posting you're doing, It almost sounds like you are planning on doing some Bass fishing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted June 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 All this posting you're doing, It almost sounds like you are planning on doing some Bass fishing I just came back to fishing a couple of years back, and I'm having fun. I'm lucky enough to have the Thames almost at my doorstep and up here above London it's got lots of very pretty secluded spots for us to wade. JF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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