OhioFisherman Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 Tried to get a bolt out on the wood burner door(cast iron), bolt broke off in the door. Soaked it in PB Blaster penetrating lube for a couple days, drilled thru the bolt with the drill press, lubed again with penetrating oil. inserted ez-out and broke that rascal off in the bolt. Looking for a plan B, ez-out is from Mac tools and I am guessing a special temper or hardness? Never tried to drill thru one before. Any suggestions?
OhioFisherman Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Posted January 25, 2009 LOL douG it`s only 19 years old! Cost a thousand bucks back then and the smaller ones are now 1800 and made in China? We forgot how to cast iron here?
douG Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) I'm sorry, I would be just as flummoxed as you with that problem. Can you leave things as is, and drill and tap another hole? Can you try another ez out from the other side? I dunno. Edited January 25, 2009 by douG
OhioFisherman Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Posted January 25, 2009 doug the bolts hold on a metal frame that holds the widows in place, the frames were falling apart so for safety I decided to replace them. Bolt is on a cast tapered boss on the door, 1/4 - 20 bolt and the boss in only about 1/2 inch square. A project for the summer I let go too long, but I have to work when I got an extra set of legs around to do the walking for me. Might have to look for a carbide end mill to clamp in the drill press to cut through thru the ez-out. Worst come to worst there is a welding shop on the circle here that might have a plan. Never broke one before so I am fishing for ideas. Bolt doesn`t go thru.
Daplumma Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 You are gonna have a fight on your hands drilling thru an EZ out.Very hard..and brittle.If you do get it drilled and another ez out in try heating it up before removing.Sometimes you can heat the metal aroung the bolt and touch some candle wax to the bolt.the heat will (hopefully )draw the wax in and lube the extraction.Good luck, Joe
Greencoachdog Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) Take a look at some of these Paul, they may help you formulate a plan. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navc...rough+cast+iron I know hind sight is 20/20, but it may have been better to have drilled the bolt completely out and retapped it. Edited January 25, 2009 by GCD
OhioFisherman Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Posted January 25, 2009 Figured it wasn`t going to be an easy battle when I heard the snap Joe. Just using a 1/4 inch socket wrench on it, never had one break before, I am always real careful using them. Don`t think it was cold enough here to affect the metal. Bolt wasn`t bottomed out in the boss, I could feel when the drill reached the end of the bolt and put PB Blaster in the hole. Don`t put PB Blaster in a plastic cup it will eat it up! Can wouldn`t spray so I poked a hole in it and drained it in the cup, about 5 minutes and it fell apart. I do have some real small drills maybe I can drill around the ez-out but then? Wax may help?
misfish Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 You need to buy a diamond drill or bit.It will cut through the harden steel Paul. To bad yer so far away.Then again,if you hooked up that boat and came up here with that door,I could fix that problem in no time in th shop.
douG Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 Wow, youse guys are just beautiful *sniff*. Verklempt I am now.
OhioFisherman Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Posted January 25, 2009 LOL Glen certainly looks that way now! LOL Brian have to get the wife to take off the wedding ring and glue them rocks to a bit? Never had this much of a problem with a bolt, but I usually don`t let them sit in a fire for 19 years, heating and cooling in the wood burner may have drawn the temper out of them? Maybe just cheap bolts, when you start busting them off with a 1/4 inch rachet?
Whitespinnerbait Posted January 25, 2009 Report Posted January 25, 2009 You broke the easy out in the bolt :wallbash: Next step ......lop stove in the dump :stretcher:
misfish Posted January 26, 2009 Report Posted January 26, 2009 LOL Brian have to get the wife to take off the wedding ring and glue them rocks to a bit? No sir. If you can ge to a machine shop supplier Paul,you will find what I mention. Harden steel is a be atch,but can be drilled with a diamond bit. Thier not expensive.But then agian,whats yer stove worth to ya? BTW,once you have it drilled out,the rest is easy. I would recommend stianless or even better,a copper bolt and nut. Brass will do aswell. How may diamonds on on that ring btw? LOL
OhioFisherman Posted January 26, 2009 Author Report Posted January 26, 2009 Brian, a couple of machine tool suppliers in the area, will try to get out and look tomorrow. I have a pretty good selection of stainless bolts, if not one of the guys I used to compete against in Bass tournaments runs one of the supply shops, a good dude. LOL diamonds on a wedding ring? Never enough! Them little rocks will buy a lot of tackle but wimmins just ain`t practical. LOL Whitespinnerbait, doors lift off the stove, easy to replace door. it might come to that, if they still have parts in stock for an old stove.
misfish Posted January 26, 2009 Report Posted January 26, 2009 doors lift off the stove You never said that in yer first post Paul.Well then. Just put one of them fancy wood/fire place screen spark catchers things in front of it. Them little rocks will buy a lot of tackle AMEN BROTHER,what were we thinking eh? Never mind,I know. LOL
Daplumma Posted January 26, 2009 Report Posted January 26, 2009 You may want to drop the door off at the machine shop.They will make quick work of it. Joe
misfish Posted January 26, 2009 Report Posted January 26, 2009 You may want to drop the door off at the machine shop.They will make quick work of it. Joe ] Thats what I was saying Joe. How far is Barrie to Ohio, between friends
npt1 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Posted January 26, 2009 go to machine shop supply, ask about a keen sert kit, it will be a drill, nf tap and a 1/4 x 20 keensert. they will have a chart and will walk you through the process, use heat to get broken tap and e/z removed.
Greencoachdog Posted January 26, 2009 Report Posted January 26, 2009 ]Thats what I was saying Joe. How far is Barrie to Ohio, between friends Aboot half the distance as it is from 'Bama to Barrie!!!
OhioFisherman Posted January 26, 2009 Author Report Posted January 26, 2009 npt1 a similar product I have seen here http://www.emhart.com/products/helicoil/heliex/design.asp Just a question of getting the ez-out, out. Thanks guys! Got some ideas to think about now, having someone else mess with it sounds like fun to me.
misfish Posted January 26, 2009 Report Posted January 26, 2009 someones going to need a torch!! primitive
fishforfun Posted January 26, 2009 Report Posted January 26, 2009 Ok you broke a 1/4 20 bolt in the cast iron stove, drilled it and tried an easy out that snapped. Disc grind the bolt ez out flat, center pop it, take a small masonry drill, sharpen it like you would a high speed drill bit and drill into the bolt get another ez out try again. Or go to a machine shop and have them carbide it out and re tap for you, unfortunately cast iron,steel bolts and heat=worlds best loctite.
OhioFisherman Posted January 26, 2009 Author Report Posted January 26, 2009 LOL Hometown The new stoves are more efficient.... Mine has a Cadillac combuster!
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