HTHM Posted March 5, 2008 Report Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) I am flying to Calgary on Tuesday and was wondering where I want to sit in order to benefit from the view available while flying. As a matter of fact the flight path will take me over my house and I would like to photogragh it as I go by. Please don't say "window seat" I got that figured out already. Edited March 5, 2008 by hometownhandyman
irishfield Posted March 5, 2008 Report Posted March 5, 2008 Gonna be tricky since you don't know which way they'll depart into the wind... so your house could be on one side or the other! I like to sit right behind the wing...so I can watch it's magnifigance in flexiblity during turbulence... and point it out to "non" fliers! LOL
HTHM Posted March 5, 2008 Author Report Posted March 5, 2008 Gonna be tricky since you don't know which way they'll depart into the wind... so your house could be on one side or the other! I live tucked into the armpit of the north south and east west runways of YYH so I should be able to figure out the runway / direction of takeoff etc. It's always with the wind, right??????
irishfield Posted March 5, 2008 Report Posted March 5, 2008 Into it ! or shall I say against it. "With" the wind is generally a no no....unless it's light.
perodimi Posted March 5, 2008 Report Posted March 5, 2008 Hi Handyman, I see you're in Mount Hope. Generally we don't get that far departing from Toronto no matter what runway you depart from. We have to maintain runway headings until 3600' for noise reasons until Air Traffic Control points us the right way. The only way you may get a glimpse of the Hamilton area is if you take off toward the west (into wind) on a clear day and turn right (North) after takeoff and that usually occurs around Streetsville or Milton. The common route to Calgary after takeoff is generally north toward Midland then Sault Ste. Marie, Thunder Bay or perhaps Diluth depending upon winds, then basically along the US - Canada border. Cheers, have a great trip! Peter
Tarzan's Jane Posted March 5, 2008 Report Posted March 5, 2008 I am more curious as to where on a plane would be the most assured area for survival...ya I know when I plane goes down there are few survivors...but just in case...
Kirk Posted March 5, 2008 Report Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) Safest place to sit...based on fatality is by the wing...wings hold that part of the plane together, increasing your small odds of survival despite being close to the fuel, statistically the percentage dead are highest in front and back. crashpages.com and some other web sites with info for people with fear of flying (and you want daytime non-commuter rush hour flights if possible) (land crashes higher odds of survival than ocean) I don't know if the website still runs but it included deathes/km flown breakdown by airline and fatality records for cities (third world countries are the worst, Canada US is good) Air Canada has a decent record Things to consider before flying... VIA RAIL FIRST CLASS HAS AMAZING SERVICE, NOTHING LIKE TRAVELLING ON TONS OF STEEL 3 INCHES OFF THE GROUND Edited March 5, 2008 by Kirk
Gerritt Posted March 5, 2008 Report Posted March 5, 2008 I could see where against the wind would be adventitious for lift at slower speeds and make sense.. I too grew up in Mount Hope, as did my wife... I grew up on White Church and 6.... Kitty corner to the runway 6 (well it used to be) Between the planes and trucks.. it is a wonder I got ANY sleep LOL my wife grew up just east of 6 on Airport Rd... same thing.... HTH.. please send me a PM.. Need to talk w/ you for a moment... G
perodimi Posted March 5, 2008 Report Posted March 5, 2008 Safest place is in the cockpit where I am, then you know what's going on and besides that, my window opens and has it's own escape rope! That way, the first thing you'll see is my sorry butt running away if we evacuate. All kidding aside, Kirk's comments are probably accurate plus the ride is best over the wings. These plane are so long now that the front and back can sway a bit in turbulence. The quietest ride is toward the front. In the cockpit, you really don't hear the engines especially with our headsets on so you have to watch the dials to make sure everything is up to speed.
irishfield Posted March 6, 2008 Report Posted March 6, 2008 (edited) I'm a just behind the wing sitter on commercial flights. Makes for a quick run when the fuselage breaks apart forward of the wing attach ...... And Twilight... everyone knows that the best place to be in a crash is inside the "black box". It's always found intact..... Edited March 6, 2008 by irishfield
Casey123 Posted March 6, 2008 Report Posted March 6, 2008 In my non expert opinion , the best place to be sitting in case of a crash, is on another flight, preferably one that is not going to crash.
Tarzan's Jane Posted March 6, 2008 Report Posted March 6, 2008 Thanks for the tips guys...basically ya'll are saying I am SOL.
irishfield Posted March 6, 2008 Report Posted March 6, 2008 Still the safest way to travel Nancy ! Now getting to the airport... I can't help you with!
Mike the Pike Posted March 6, 2008 Report Posted March 6, 2008 So I was sitting in the right place on my flight in January Wayne.Now thats not what you said in January
irishfield Posted March 6, 2008 Report Posted March 6, 2008 Waddid I tell you to scare you in January Mike ? Since I can no longer get up front, to sit in the jump seats, on all my Skyservice flights... I generally sit just behind the wing or on the wing if I can.
Casey123 Posted March 6, 2008 Report Posted March 6, 2008 (edited) Irishfield, Like this???? Edited March 6, 2008 by 4Reel
Daplumma Posted March 6, 2008 Report Posted March 6, 2008 The back is the safest place.I have never heard of a plane backing into a mountain. Joe
Mike the Pike Posted March 6, 2008 Report Posted March 6, 2008 Waddid I tell you to scare you in January Mike ? Since I can no longer get up front, to sit in the jump seats, on all my Skyservice flights... I generally sit just behind the wing or on the wing if I can. This is what you wrote Wayne. an 23 2008, 10:26 AM Post #9 Imperial Angler Group Icon Group: Members Posts: 10,445 Joined: 14-November 06 From: Penetanguishene/Temagami Member No.: 6 All I can tell you Mike is that you were sitting in the safest spot in the plane! When they break in half on landing..right behind the wing... you can run out thru the new gapping exit ! I was wrong you did say it was the safest place to sit it was the gapping exit that will go through my mind on my next flight
HTHM Posted March 6, 2008 Author Report Posted March 6, 2008 Hi Handyman, I see you're in Mount Hope. Generally we don't get that far departing from Toronto no matter what runway you depart from. We have to maintain runway headings until 3600' for noise reasons until Air Traffic Control points us the right way. The only way you may get a glimpse of the Hamilton area is if you take off toward the west (into wind) on a clear day and turn right (North) after takeoff and that usually occurs around Streetsville or Milton. The common route to Calgary after takeoff is generally north toward Midland then Sault Ste. Marie, Thunder Bay or perhaps Diluth depending upon winds, then basically along the US - Canada border. Cheers, have a great trip! Peter That is exactly why I am flying out of YYH and not YYZ, a 3 minute commute to the airport, I increase my property values by using the airport, and I don't have to worry about parking my car. I can see my house from the most common take off and landing route into YYH (Hamilton Airport) Getting back to my ORIGINAL question, where do I sit in order to best enjoy the views that will be availible???? I have no fear of flying or crashes, my brother in law works as a professional pilot and AME in the jungles of Indonesia and cycles on runways that are infinetly more dangerous than anything we have in North America and has a perfect record. This has given me confidence in the men and women in the cockpit and in the hangers as well as the machines they operate and maintain.
irishfield Posted March 6, 2008 Report Posted March 6, 2008 Either just ahead of the wing... or close to the tail. Then again midway between either end and the wing would give you a chance forward and rearward to get a shot. Have fun on Westjet !
wallyboss Posted March 6, 2008 Report Posted March 6, 2008 On my flight last Friday I was seated just over the wings and i looked out the window and saw a pretty funny warning sticker on the wing. It said something like "Do not walk past this line !!!!" oh REALLY.
dannyboy Posted March 6, 2008 Report Posted March 6, 2008 If you would just go by helicopter you would see fine and the ride is great. BTW Hamilton's designator is YHM. Dan
HTHM Posted March 6, 2008 Author Report Posted March 6, 2008 BTW Hamilton's designator is YHM. Dan DOH!
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