FinS Posted December 14, 2007 Report Posted December 14, 2007 hi folks im heading up to zone 8 in a few days and want to target whitefish what is the best thing to use as for line bait ect... any info would be greatly appreciated thanks
capt bruce Posted December 14, 2007 Report Posted December 14, 2007 I get most of my simcoe white fish on salted or live minows fished just off the bottom. But I have had days when spoons were the thing, Swedish Pimple, Kastmaster, Crippled Herring. white fish are supposed to be light hitters but I have seen days when they will hit the spoons hard . I have allways found them on or near bottom .
FinS Posted December 14, 2007 Author Report Posted December 14, 2007 thanks i did a little research and a productive way is too chum the area you are going to fish 3-5 days prior note zone 8 has a catch limit of 25 not like simcoes 2
solopaddler Posted December 14, 2007 Report Posted December 14, 2007 thanksi did a little research and a productive way is too chum the area you are going to fish 3-5 days prior note zone 8 has a catch limit of 25 not like simcoes 2 Hey Rene, yes, chumming a few days prior to fishing pays big dividends. I'd personally stick with spreaders on the bottom with small lively shiners... As you know on my lake minnows aren't allowed period. I love fishing for whitefish up there and have had some success in the winter jigging a small silver Williams, 8" dropper off the treble with a pearl tied to it. Vast majority of the fish were caught on the pearl dropper. Good luck man, would love to hear how you make out!
Fang Posted December 15, 2007 Report Posted December 15, 2007 fished lake temagami for years here's what we tend to stick with For chum take raw spaghetti and break into peices about 1/2-1" long, Then cook. Drain and place pasta in a freezer bag. I usually then add 3-4 drops of yellow food coloring. Drill holes in a likely spot, I like flat deep basins 70ft or more with soft or sand bottoms. In each holes take about 1/2 cup of chum and drop into hole. Break up pasta so it sinks as seperate pieces. I like salted minnows for whitefish. Buy 5-6 dozen small shiners and drain water out completely. Add 1-2 cups of rock salt. I even used road slat in a pinch and it worked. Fish salted minnow right on bottom on a 2 way spreader and tip up. I even had decent luck using small trout/salmon roe bags
Sinker Posted December 15, 2007 Report Posted December 15, 2007 4lb test, medium size split shot and a #12 eagle claw wide gap with a lively shiner hooked in the Sinker
Guest gbfisher Posted December 15, 2007 Report Posted December 15, 2007 fished lake temagami for years here's what we tend to stick with For chum take raw spaghetti and break into peices about 1/2-1" long, Then cook. Drain and place pasta in a freezer bag. I usually then add 3-4 drops of yellow food coloring. Drill holes in a likely spot, I like flat deep basins 70ft or more with soft or sand bottoms. In each holes take about 1/2 cup of chum and drop into hole. Break up pasta so it sinks as seperate pieces. I like salted minnows for whitefish. Buy 5-6 dozen small shiners and drain water out completely. Add 1-2 cups of rock salt. I even used road slat in a pinch and it worked. Fish salted minnow right on bottom on a 2 way spreader and tip up. I even had decent luck using small trout/salmon roe bags Try this next time out. Its very cool the way it works...Fill a coffee can 3/4 full of water. Add a cup of rock salt to that. stir. Add a small scoop of minnows to that. When they seems all but dead. little twitch here and there. Let them go in the hole. They will sink like rocks and twitch the hole way down. Even when they are on bottom they try an swim up but float back to the bottom again. Great attractant....That's what I call salty's....
Fang Posted December 15, 2007 Report Posted December 15, 2007 GB That is very cool. I forgot all about this A buddy and I used to fish with Danny Hale and his dad when they ran their huts on Simcoe. They used to do this in the hut with an old mason jar. They called it East Coast Minnows Actually brought back a few nice memories
Sinker Posted December 15, 2007 Report Posted December 15, 2007 Try this next time out. Its very cool the way it works...Fill a coffee can 3/4 full of water. Add a cup of rock salt to that. stir. Add a small scoop of minnows to that. When they seems all but dead. little twitch here and there. Let them go in the hole. They will sink like rocks and twitch the hole way down. Even when they are on bottom they try an swim up but float back to the bottom again. Great attractant....That's what I call salty's.... Yup, that sure works good! Especially in the little red hut
Guest gbfisher Posted December 15, 2007 Report Posted December 15, 2007 Yes .....Slyatv's huts. Thats who showed me! The real funny part is that I dont even use bait on Simcoe for Perch, Whitefish or Lakers. So the 120 minnow count is easily good for the day be it pinheads or large shinners.
johnnyb Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 I love this can of minnows idea....forgive me for what may be stupid question, but, do you just send the minnows down the hole, or is the coffeecan/mason jar tied to something so you can lower the whole works? Now that I've asked that out loud, I'm pretty sure you just send the minnows down....
Fang Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 (edited) Don't need to lower can/jar down at all. Once "salted" the minnows swim straght down and will struggle around the bottom right below the hut. Mind you the deeper the water, the more the minnows will spread out Edited December 16, 2007 by Fang
fishindevil Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 Well we used to get the shinners and an old pair of scisors,and cut them up !!!!! yes cut them all up,not all the way to mush,just till they are in several pieces including the head,and then of course salt them big time,and pour all that down the hole !!!...man it works,and with all those loose scales and the scent of blood & salt...man the whities will go nuts for sure...it will also work for lake trout !!!! its nice to hear all the different ways to chumm a hole for good old whitefish !!!....cheers
Musky or Specks Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 (edited) Well we used to get the shinners and an old pair of scisors,and cut them up !!!!! yes cut them all up,not all the way to mush,just till they are in several pieces including the head,and then of course salt them big time,and pour all that down the hole !!!...man it works,and with all those loose scales and the scent of blood & salt...man the whities will go nuts for sure...it will also work for lake trout !!!! its nice to hear all the different ways to chumm a hole for good old whitefish !!!....cheers Thats the method(except we dont salt them just use one or two every hour or so out of the bucket) we use and then we jig, jig, jig,. Watched it all on the accu view and it sure brought loads of whitefish in. Edited December 16, 2007 by Musky or Specks
johnnyb Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 Okay, so the next question is....what's the best recipe for whitefish?
FISHINGNUT Posted December 16, 2007 Report Posted December 16, 2007 (edited) We use salties and kernal corn to chum .Then usually a two way spreader right on the bottom with a tip up.I have had good luck replacing the original hooks with a small treble with a pearl added .I dont know why but the whities seem to love that little pearl .I hook one treble with a lively minnow right behind the anus upside down and a cheese egg like you would use for salmon fishing on the other treble. I added a couple of pics of a simple chum can I made with a soup can and wieght .Fill the can 1/2 with chum attach it to your line (heavy action rod) with a snap swivel.Let the can fill with water then let it sick to the bottom.Then at the bottom give your line a quick snap and reel up the can .It dropps the bait exactly where you want it right below you .I find if you just drop bait down the hole any currents can drift your chum quite a far distance from where you are actually are fishing http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j143/JamieJen/DSC01022.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j143/Jam.../DSC01025-1.jpg http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j143/JamieJen/DSC01023.jpg Edited December 16, 2007 by FISHINGNUT
FinS Posted December 16, 2007 Author Report Posted December 16, 2007 thanks guys 2 more days and im off
HUKDONFAWNIX Posted December 17, 2007 Report Posted December 17, 2007 Possible dumb question.......... Does this chumming method work for all species? Pike, Pickeral etc. Or is it only recommended for Whitefish? Thanks in advance for not laugin at my lack of knowledge. lol
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