CrowMan

Consultation on potential revisions to release of fish rules for recreational fishing...survey https://www.ontario.ca/page/fishing-notices-and-updates#section-0 Good...perhaps finally some clarity. For example, taking a photo and measuring a Musky that is caught from a strictly c&r lake..

BTW, woodenboater...nice choice of vehicle. My wife had a Wrangler 4xe (plug-in hybrid) for 9 months...it was stolen from the GO parking lot. Never put any gas in at all during the week as a grocery-getter and commuter, just plugged it in on the driveway overnight...but with the ICE no range anxiety at all on long road trips or to the cottage. The total output of the power train was impressive...better than the non-hybrid options...375hp and 450 ftlbs torque. The Grand Cherokee is a nice ride....still has a lot of German DNA from when Mercedes owned them

I'm actually blown away by that stat... That in a country where its most southern tip is at the same latitude as the middle of Hudson Bay...it's largest and most southerly city, Oslo, is at the same latitude as Yellowknife....and also happens to be the 11th largest oil producing country in the world (Kuwait is 10th) ...and 80% of new vehicles sold are EV's...wow !

BRP (as my Dad would say) is on the horns of a dilemma. Snowmobile sales have been plummeting for a couple of decades now. If you need snow to sell your product, but your existing product contributes to the lack of snow...well, you may need to change your product. No doubt that the cold environment and the drag of the propulsion system make it extremely technologically challenging. I have a group of friends that are avid sled heads. For years, every winter they do a week long grand tour somewhere. Years ago, it was Muskoka and Haliburton....lately they've been going much further afield...Temagami, Chapleau, Quebec...this year it was Cochrane..

Yes, no mention of increases in the densification of existing lithium batteries and new electrical storage solutions already in the pipeline... That being said I don't think ICE vehicles will completely dissappear for a very long time...there are certain applications where they make sense..but the ability to tow a large trailer long distances is a very small segment of the market. However, when I read an opinion piece, I often "follow the money"... Financial Post is owned by Post Media....which is 66% owned by Chatham Asset Management...which is a US holding corporation heavily invested in the oil industry... just sayin'

"It was shorter than melton mowbray" While we're reminiscing...PorkPies' comment brought back memories of John "Tiny" Bennett. Tiny was the outdoors/fishing columnist for the old Toronto Telegram, and then briefly for the Toronto Sun when that paper rose out of the ashes of the Telegram. Tiny, a 6' 5" 260lb Englishman, was originally from Leicestershire, the home of the Melton Mowbray pie. He once wrote an entire column extolling the virtues of this wonderful concoction...it was his favourite lunch to take fishing. He even published his own family's recipe...as he claimed it could only be made a certain way, with specific ingredients. That column spurred me as a young man to bake my own MM pies...which I still do to this day. Tiny's columns and his book, "The Art of Angling" were way ahead of their time...it was his approach to fishing that instilled in me the passion I still have today...to appreciate the activity as a form of "art", rather than something where the end result is to just put some food on the table. Even today, his book is still well worth a read. My apologies to the OP for getting sidetracked.

Crappie Candy !

Heh...frankly I don't think we really disagree. You should hear my best friend of 50 years and I argue...you'd think one us was going to commit murder...

The smaller tribs have perfect colour right now...

Yeah...like I said it's my wife car. I can't begin to tell you what she's spent on vehicles she's had over the years. She has champagne taste, buys new and keeps nothing longer than 3 years. She's always picked her own vehicles, but she's always worked so I won't deny her that if it's her thing...and believe me after 39 years of marriage it's been well worth it. Unlike some of my buddies, I still have the house and cottage...LOL Me...for now, I'll stick with my Ram with a hemi.

Occasionally, my wife let's me drive her new iX. Yes, braking is a bit of a learning curve...you basically learn to drive with just the accelerator (I was about to say gas...lol) pedal. Although the Beemer does allow you to adjust (0 to 100%) how much re-gen it's using to make it feel more "natural". The re-gen system actually makes the vehicle even more "environmentally friendly"...all that heat that the brakes create is no longer just warming up the atmosphere....lol Anyway, with the amount that you use the brakes on this thing, I'm sure it's going to be a long time between brake jobs. Just from a cursory look at the set up...the calipers and rotors themselves look identical to an ICE vehicle. I will say this vehicle is incredibly fun to drive...the instant acceleration creates G's that feel like a big hand is pushing you back in your seat...and the handling with the low center of gravity makes this SUV feel like a sports car.

Jeez...even LimeyAngler's lake up in God's country is shutting down... https://www.ckdr.net/2023/02/16/dryden-lions-cancel-kinsmen-fishing-derby/

The platform was the University of Toronto Zoology Dept....hence the connection to fish. Yeah, that's going way back to the days of TCP/IP and DOS....

Too funny...I'm pretty sure alcohol was involved in that production..

Speaking of us old farts reminiscing... never mind the pee stops during those crop tours (jeez, we used to measure distance by how many beers to get there...Toronto to Wasaga was a six pack away), the vapors coming out the backside sure as heck were flammable...we used to joke about the blue flame special...lol I guess the 19th century was the era of the steam engine. The 20th century the era of the ICE, and now the 21st century is the era of the electric motor. Sure miss the days of being a backyard mechanic. My brother and I would strip an engine down to every last nut and bolt and re-build it just for kicks. It's sad that my grandkids won't be able to really have the same experience...they all want to build video games not motors.

Me too ! That's one of the reasons I'm here. You mention your son. My son is an Environmental Scientist...Masters Degree from Queens. That may explain some of our opinions...lol

I thought that this what you were referring to...BMW and Toyota together... https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/12/ev-laggards-bmw-and-toyota-to-partner-on-hydrogen-fuel-cell-vehicles/ Lots of opinions on the future of technology....and since the future hasn't happened yet, they're just that opinions and not facts. It will be interesting to see where it all leads... For now the market seems to be betting on EV's. The Toronto Auto Show opens this week with 36 different EV's on display. BTW...please don't view a statement of opinion or fact as something meant to discredit...I value all opinions.

My background is in HVAC...my company took a long hard look as hydrogen as a potential heating fuel. In a lot of ways it makes sense...afterall, there is already extensive infrastructure in place to transport it to homes and businesses. There are existing cross-country pipelines, pipes under the streets and meters on homes/buildings that currently deliver Natural Gas, and on the surface would seem a seamless transition to hydrogen. However, as Musk alluded to it has issues. The molecule is so small (it's the smallest atom in the universe) that conventional sealing methods can't contain it. Traditional O-rings and pipe thread compounds are ineffective and result in leaks. It's also extremely volatile...see the Hindenburg. None of these are deal breakers...there are existing work arounds. The biggest issue is producing the stuff. At this point, it takes more energy (through electrolysis) to produce hydrogen than the energy that it can provide. Of course, technology is always changing, and down the road who knows, it could be a major player in the energy mix. For now, lithium batteries seem to be the most effe⁶ctive solution as an EV power source. And again to clarify...most Lithium comes from Australia, not China...and we're about to mine it ourselves in Ontario. On top of that, Chrysler and LG are building a $5 Billion lithium battery plant right here in Windsor. We will potentially soon being manufacturing 100% built in Ontario EV's...which I think (as Martha Stewart would say) is a good thing. https://www.northernontariobusiness.com/mining-the-northwest/northwestern-ontario-sees-the-green-lithium-rush-6526470 https://www.stellantis.com/en/news/press-releases/2022/march/stellantis-and-lg-energy-solution-to-invest-over-5-billion-cad-in-joint-venture-for-first-large-scale-lithium-Ion-battery-production-plant-in-canada

"BMW and Toyota are in bed together trying to perfect a hydrogen combustion engine" Just for the sake of clarity...the hydrogen vehicles these two mfgr's are developing are still electric vehicles. They just use a hydrogen fuel cell rather than batteries to create/store the electricity. The vehicle is powered by an electric motor...it's not a "combustion engine".

No problem Dan. I certainly dont disagree with you that there's more technology coming down the road. There's always going to more and better technology...its what our civilization has been built on for the last 2000 years. The marketplace will sort out the winners and losers. It's just that you used the terms "half-truths " and "lies" ..and there is absolutely no evidence of that in their advertising. If there was, I'd be the first one in line to file a complaint with the CRTC or the Crown Attorney. My apologies if I'm passionate about the reputation of a business. In my 40 years of being in sales and marketing, I've often been subjected to exactly that...people throwing mud without evidence or facts...and it irks me to no end.

"If you notice with all those ads pushing EVs they never talk about any of the negative issues" l don't disagree that EV's have some issues or that they make sense for everybody in every situation....but advertising your product is not "propaganda". Just like McDonald's doesn't talk about its French fries making you fat...or Toyota telling you need to change the oil four times a year in its commercials. It's a free marketplace...you absorb the information from advertising and your own independent research and you make a buying decision on what's best for you. I don't believe we're being fed "propaganda" in some nefarious plot by 99% of the world's scientists in some kind of "alarmist climate change" scam. If it's all about "making money", do you really think the auto mfgr's want to spend billions re-tooling for EV production ?

I'm confused. So...a TV commercial from an automobile manufacturer is "propaganda" ? Isn't that called "advertising" ? Like all businesses big and small have done for 100's of years ? The same "advertising" that is governed by laws that prevent "half-truths" and "lies" through false or misleading advertising, ie. fraud in the criminal code or state legislation. What are the "half-truths" or "lies" that Chrysler, Hyundai, GM, etc are promoting in these commercials ? My original statement was just an observation that the mfgr's currently can't keep up with demand for EV's. My wife waited a year for her EV...I'm sure BMW would have preferred to have her money much sooner. So my point was why do they need to bother to advertise EV's at great expense if there's already a waiting list. Well perhaps I should've elaborated...yes, in business there are other reasons to advertise than just getting the immediate sale...building the brand, protecting market share, customer awareness, etc. I just think using the term " propanda" implies something nefarious on the part of these mfgr's. They, like any business simply want to promote their products. There is obviously a big demand for EV's...for a lot of people (not everybody) they make sense. The mfgr's see that's where the market is headed. I'm sure the last thing the auto mfgr's want to do is to spend a bunch of cash re-tooling their plants and re-training their workers in switching over from ICE vehicles...which they were perfectly happy to produce for the last 100 years or so. Please take no offense...like I said, I'm just confused on why you would use the word "propaganda" to describe an ad for a pick-up truck.

I don't disagree that demand for EV's is outstripping supply...so I'm not sure why the mfgr's are spending a whack of dough promoting them. Last night on the US feed of the Super Bowl, five different car companies had ads flogging their EV's...at $7 million USD for a 30 second spot. EV's have certainly become mainstream...it wasn't too long ago that the Super Bowl ads were all about who had the toughest, baddest truck. Anyway, it would seem that a lot of new manufacturing capacity it set to come up to speed in the next year or two, to fill the anticipated demand for EV's. On another note...Dave Grohl was featured in a whiskey ad during the game...extolling the virtues of Canada. Nice to see, as the Yanks are usually blind to their northern friends.

I hope this winter season is a one off... https://www.yorkregion.com/news-story/10851142-lukewarm-season-leaves-lake-simcoe-fishers-angling-for-more/

PREMATURE ELECTRIFICATION New ad debuting on Super Bowl tonight: