Give Canal Lake a try Garry, you'll find plenty of pike in there...heard they're squeking into Balsam to, bad news for the musky fishery. I did mean to try the Kawarthas for pickereyes, just because Bancroft might be too far out of the way from Brantford. Great area past Apsley, hopefully the gentleman will take you up on your suggestion, I always hold your advice in high regard.