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Wow. Did you even read my post? People call my friends "chinks", but I'm the one looking for racism? I think you're just looking for Liberals.
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So because it's the internet, there are no limits?. That's not correct, legally speaking. Free speech doesn't apply here, OFC rules do. An OFC member complained to me about feeling unwelcome due to anti-immigrant sentiment. I will be happy to forward his message to the mods in PM if they wish(i'm sure they can read them anyways).
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Question for the tech savy Re. Windows 10
Dutch01 replied to Big Cliff's topic in General Discussion
Cliff, in my opinion you are always better to go with a fresh install. If you have important programs that only work in Vista then you may have to stick with it, but I personally would be going to Win 7. It's much leaner, and I bet it will run even better on an old laptop than Vista. -
If I'm a liberal, it's with a small "l". I gain no personal advantage when I defend my friends against bigotry. I'd like to understand that comment better. I fish Balsam a lot, and regularly run into a large group of Asian anglers at my spot. Over time we have become friendly and now we talk, lend tackle, share minnows etc. Sometimes I walk down shore a little to try a spot, and some guy will say "i see you got tired of all the chinks". It disgusts me. It's un-Canadian. And it happens a lot. Racism is alive and well in Canada. Maybe you just don't see it as often as I do.
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Chris, I wasn't calling anyone specific out there, I was speaking in a more general sense regarding the exercise of freedom of speech. I haven't seen anyone overly cross the line on this site, but I've seen guys dance around it in other threads. And as I, mentioned, it did affect at least one member who is an immigrant enough that they emailed me about it. Just because you have the right to say something doesn't mean it's right to say it.
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I think he actually IS in the USA!
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Everyone has a right to speak their opinion. They do not have a right to do so without criticism. I can and will call out racism when I see it, as I also have the right to free speech. However, this is a private board, which means you DO NOT have the right to free speech. Our speech here is at the permission of the mods based on board rules designed to foster a sense of community. I don't think this board should tolerate anti-immigrant speech, but ultimately it's not my board. It would be nice to hear the mods ring in on this. Could be a chance for them to let new Canadians (and old Canadians who were once new) that they are welcome here at OFC.
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That was a good read, thanks! This guy reminds me of an older Chris McCandless (of "Into The Wild" fame).
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Thanks Chris. This is the real point of my comment. I don't want to single anyone out or beat anyone up (metaphorically speaking), and I'll be the first guy to apologize when I'm wrong (as I was and did earlier today). I just don't want to see people leaving because they were made to feel excluded or unwelcome. I like that we have wide latitude on NF posts, but I do think there should be no tolerance for exclusionary language that may offend or alienate members.
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Cliff, I don't know you personally, but I know you have been here a long time and earned a lot of good will around here. In light of your clarification, I retract my statements as they relate to your comment, and I apologize for any offense I have caused you. I believe the larger point still stands; board members of all stripes should feel welcome here among fellow fishermen regardless of where they came from or how they got here.
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I've explained why I felt the comment was racist, it doesn't matter that race wasn't mentioned specifically.
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Be careful what you wish for..... In order to be classified as a refugee, you would need to be fleeing persecution and/or imminent harm.
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The original comment was: "You need to be a refugee they will come to you and take care of everything for you" The implication is that no one has taken care of him because he is not a refugee. It is not a stretch to read racism into this comment. The original commenter is free to add clarifying remarks if they see fit. I also was not singling out that one comment, but rather a plethora of comments on the board recently, some veiled as in this case, some overt. I recently had a heated discussion with a member named moxie, some of you may remember it. I'm not singling out moxie here, simply using him to reference the thread. Some other members made derogatory comments about immigrants and/or refugees. I received a message from a member who is a visible minority thanking me for speaking up. He was frustrated with what he perceived to be racism, but was afraid to speak out because English is not his first language. I don't think it's good for the community to have members feeling unwelcome- but hey it's not my website. Carry on then.
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I'm not defending TO anglers outburst, but he does have a point. Constant insinuation from board regulars that refugees are abusers of the system who are handed everything while white people get nothing. This is A-OK with the mods apparently, despite the fact that it is racist and millions of Canadians aren't white. Apparently we aren't worried about offending them and them leaving the site. "I'm tired of the racism" Hey don't let the door hit you on the way out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Really?!?! Is this how the mods and regulars on this board want our community to be perceived on the subject of diversity?
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Counterpoint to Wynne wanting LCBO sales: Don't Let Those Who Opposed Legal Cannabis Profit From It Now By Dana Larsen (Director, Sensible BC Campaign For Marijuana Reform, Vancouver's Medicinal Cannabis Dispensary) Before premiers, liquor unions and corporations start falling all over each other in an effort to cash in on legal cannabis sales, let's remember the real reasons we should be ending cannabis prohibition in Canada. Yes, we should be legalizing cannabis in Canada, but not because of the tax revenue it will generate, and not because legalization a better way to keep cannabis from kids, and not even because polls show that most Canadians now support changing the law. We should be ending cannabis prohibition in Canada because the war on cannabis and cannabis users has always been unjustified, immoral and harmful to individuals and society. Let us remember that cannabis prohibition was founded solely on racism and ignorance. There was never any valid scientific, health, or social reason to ban cannabis and punish cannabis users in the first place. As a society, we need to acknowledge these truths before we can start talking about tax rates and points of sale. The first step must be to immediately end all arrests for possession and personal cultivation, nationwide. That must be at the top of the agenda for any cannabis reform in Canada. These days, Canada's cannabis community is feeling like the Little Red Hen from the classic fairy tale. We remember what happened when we asked, "Who will help us fight against cannabis prohibition?" "Not us," said the unions. "There are a lot of jobs for us in arresting and jailing cannabis users." "Not us," said the corporations. "Legal cannabis would hurt our investments in pharmaceuticals." "Not us," said the politicians. "Instead, we're going to pass stricter laws than ever, because that gets us more votes!" So we did it by ourselves. Canada's cannabis community opened bong shops and seed shops, we created cannabis magazines and websites, we held cannabis rallies and opened medical dispensaries, all in peaceful civil disobedience and in defiance of these unfair laws. When some of us were raided by police and ended up in front of a judge, we asked "Who will help us fund these important court cases, to defend our rights and change these unjust laws?" "Not us," said the unions. "All these new prisons mean jobs, jobs, jobs!" "Not us," said the corporations. "We can't patent cannabis medicines, so we don't care." "Not us," said the politicians. "In fact, we will fight you in court every step of the way!" So the cannabis community raised the funds ourselves. We used the money from our openly illegal bong shops, seed banks and dispensaries to pay lawyers and cover court costs, chipping away at prohibition one case at a time. It was through the courts that we forced the government to first create a medical cannabis program, and every single improvement and expansion of the program has come as a result of lengthy and expensive court battles funded by grassroots activists. Now that we have mostly beaten the laws in court and on the street, with cannabis gardens and dispensaries spreading into every city and town across the country, we ask, "Who will help us sell cannabis and profit from legalization?" "We will sell it to you for profit!" say the unions. "We know how to sell liquor, and it's all the same thing, right?" "We will sell it to you for profit!" say the corporations. "We will sell it to you for $15 a gram, as long as the police shut down all the illegal dispensaries first." "We will sell it to you for profit!" say the politicians. "We will keep the taxes high, so we can pay for all the harm that you cannabis users are causing society." To which we say, "Get lost! We will keep growing it and selling it ourselves. We already have hundreds of dispensaries across the country that are providing great quality cannabis. We already have dozens of court precedents which have forced your police to stop arresting our people. We already have a thriving culture and a vigorous, successful and diversified cannabis industry. We don't need your help, but thanks anyways." The moral of the story? Those who show no willingness to contribute to a product do not deserve to share it. Canada's cannabis community doesn't need the liquor unions, or the corporations, or the politicians to take over our industry. We know what we're doing when it comes to growing, distributing and enjoying cannabis. The groups that have oppressed our culture and fought against legalization should not be the groups that get to regulate and profit from our sacred plant. Just get rid of your ridiculous prohibition laws, stop arresting and hassling peaceful people for pot, and leave the rest to us. Source: http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/8887122
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If anyone here knows what it means to maintain a ratio on a private torrent tracker PM me and I'll see if I can score you an invite to mine. All scene releases, probably the best site on the net, but you have to maintain a minimum 1:1 radio or you get banned, and I get banned for inviting you.
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what song are you listening to right now???
Dutch01 replied to fishing n autograph's topic in Non-Outdoors Open Discussion
Not my usual musical style but it's a catchy tune: -
I have a silver trap, but that was random I didn't know any better when I bought it. I use a ball of compressed bagel. I put it out overnight in the creek behind my house and have have caught plenty of dace, chubs and suckers. I have put it out for a few hours during day and caught the odd one, but I found overnight to be the ticket for some reason.
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NF - Charges finally laid in gas plant scandal
Dutch01 replied to John Bacon's topic in General Discussion
I didn't vote for them so I feel free to complain! -
+/- 1,700 km according to Google. Too far for me sadly
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Well, looks were all screwed down here then. I'm not driving 15-20 hours for ice!