AKRISONER

Speaking of electrified things, I finally got to give an electric ice auger a go this weekend (ion Gen 1) I can tell you right now, I will never use a gas auger again if I don’t have to. The electric was better in every single imaginable way. I could not think of a single negative to say about it. I wasn’t even aware that these augers feature a reverse button, which of course allowed you to basically push 90% of the ice shavings back down the hole. Once you’d punched through. I’ve heard that when it’s really cold you may neeed to bring the battery inside the hut, but we left the thing out in -5 for two days of fishing and it barely ate any power.

That’s something you need to leave to engineers and nuclear physicists to figure out and analyze. It’s so far beyond my understanding that I don’t know the answer.

This is a much much clearer explanation than the last one I saw. He didn’t show how he finishes it in the last video I found of him tying it. I’m going to have to practice this one. It’s apparently awesome from the reviews over at bass boat central

I’ve tried and tried, but with my raynauds syndrome and fishing in canada where we only get 10 out of 100 trips in a year where it’s not howling wind, cold, raining, snowing etc. I’ve always resorted back to the double uni just because my hands will put up with it. I’ve tried the shinfukae knot after hearing fantastic things about it but I haven’t been able to solve how to finish it, the guy doesn’t speak great English. i made a thread a few years back about my troubles with my hands and knots that I like due to their ease of tying in bad weather and limited to no failure.

Sigh…still waiting for ice. thanks for the fish porn while I wait

I’m 100% pro nuclear, but it would be a horrific idea to spend god knows how much money build 5 Darlingtons only to find out that in 30 years time fusion is available and provides unlimited energy for the cost of building the plant. Re:looking at the total energy costs of electric vs oil, yes of course everything has a footprint nothing will be perfect in that regard, it doesn’t mean you should just stop because it’s not perfect, that’s a pretty flawed logic. It would be like saying we should have never built beyond the Wright brother’s kitty hawk because the thing couldn’t fly super sonic. ”green” is a concept not an identified “standard” the certainty is that electric vehicles even with their dirty mines, and additional copper etc are still cleaner than an oil guzzling carbon emitting gas engine. Here’s a good website that breaks it down even by the electricity generation fuel…the difference between an electric and a icb isn’t even close https://afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/electric_emissions.html

That somewhat seems to be a bit of a “make it look bad just to make it look bad” take. I’ve heard it can be bad with loads near the vehicles maximum towing capacity…but that’s the same for a gasser. I’ve heard that realistically speed is what kills their towing capacity, so basically If you drive at normal highway speed and don’t speed with a normal boat there’s what you’d consider to be a normal decline in range. once again, newer battery tech is on the immediate horizon, extending range. People seem to be really worked up about this like they forgot about how bad their fuel mileage was in their 98 dodge ram or chevy. Those trucks were getting 400km while towing on a 100 litre tank lol.

this is exactly what throws me for a loop. As previously mentioned, I drive a diesel pickup towing a boat strapped with a 200hp 2 stroke on it. Knock on wood, both of them last me another 10 years? maybe longer (i could hope) But lets say an investment goes well, i win the lottery, A long lost billionaire uncle dies somewhere and I inherit a bunch of cash to buy myself Dara's 100k boat 😉blah blah blah, anyways lets say my next truck is electric (i have a deposit down on a cyber truck they originally posted the price at 68k, if i can get one at that price, I will gladly buy it, if its between a base model f150 or a cyber truck for basically the same price????) and then lets say I own that cyber truck and 8 years from date of purchase of that truck, electric outboards are an option, its actually 100% conceivable that my next truck and boat combo could be fully electric. I could literally go from diesel and 2 stroke to all electric in one generation of vehicles. EDIT: Tesla just dropped their prices 20%...aka they are the same price now as ICE vehicles...so you tell me, would you drive a gasser at that point? https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-cuts-prices-electric-vehicles-us-market-2023-01-13/

I literally think nuclear fusion is going to save the human race from our own stupid selves. Humans although we are disgusting, war mongering, polluting plague to the planet, also are incredible purely for our minds. thats what people need to remember here, remember that electric cars weren’t even on the road in 2010! Tesla are now one of the biggest auto manufacturers on the planet, and every single other major auto maker has electric vehicles that you see on the road every day. 10 years is a literal blink of the eye in the grand scheme of things. heck many of you on this forum see me as a young bozo…the internet didn’t even exist when I was born imagine the limits of human engineering with this relatively brand new electric vehicle technology. It’s kind of mind blowing when you really think about where this can go. I really have no doubt that I’m not much time at all relatively that we are going to see battery tech that allows for most vehicles to easily go 1000+km on a charge. We’re already up to 600-7with the original technology. my friends bought a Tesla this year and drove to florida in it, they stopped a total of 4 times for 30 minutes+ so effectively, the drove to florida and drove the same way that anyone would lol. Every mall, etc that they needed to stop at had chargers. Their total bill for “fuel” for the trip was something like $30 there and back. That pays off your vehicle pretty darn quick with todays fuel prices!

Dara chillllllll….this is a good thread the first in a while to actually have regular interaction. did I not understand that evinrude left the market and had gone back to the drawing board to effectively go all electric? Or was that just a rumour? i hope it purely wasn’t just to create that inboardesque abomination that they made for the back of the alumacraft line ups?

Wasn’t there a story a few years back about some of these ladies working the Beaverton ice huts? I swear to god this story broke maybe 7 years ago?

Offshore and bass boats makes the world go around. without a doubt those boats will just be An absolutely giant power plant. The beauty of lithium batteries are that they are so much lighter than lead acid. The majority of bass guys are now going lithium as the price comes down. the concerns about “charging” are somewhat irrelevant, you gotta go to the gas station to get gas too, if they make them able to use mobile chargers no harm no foul. it’d be cool to be ripping across the lake at 100+kmh with no motor noise. When I bought my boat the owner was laughing because he hadn’t been in the boat in a month since he already had a new boat with the merc 4 stroke, he couldn’t believe how loud the 2 stroke was lol

😧 holy crap where is this boat you speak of? If I own it I should be using it no?

id check the fishin hole...seems like they have them in stock.

I personally wish I could figure out a way to make the extraction of crude from the oil sands even 1% more efficient. Lots of companies working on this stuff. Then I could buy every boat I’d ever want lol.

I think some folks might be perceiving me as some kind of activist, I’ll make it abundantly clear, I drive a straight piped diesel truck that tows my boat that has a smoking two stroke on it. Such is the reality of boating in 2023 on a 35 year olds budget. Ya I’d love a new fuel sipping four stroke but it’s just not my financial reality. but, as mentioned “one can dream” and the dream when you read into what’s going on in this space isn’t as far fetched as it seems. What’s perhaps most impressive and truthfully not something people can argue about is that the performance of electric engines is so high that in most ways except cost at the moment they outperform ICB’s. like most new technology the price decreases with time. It’s very very conceivable that in 30 years time you’d look back and laugh at the fact that you used to burn gas to power your boat. Especially with your new ultra performance electric outboard that outperforms your old gas engine in every way possible. remember, icb’s have been around 100+ years, companies have been provided with 100 years to improve and fine tune the things and maximize their efficiency. I don’t think a single person in this thread would willfully trade in their new 2020+ yamaha Honda or merc 4 stroke for a 1970 Chrysler outboard lol. give electric outboard companies 100 years to fine tune their stuff, holy cow the possibilities. On the weight issue? Sitting in my garage as we speak I’ve got 4 group 31agm’s in my boat, plus a 200hp outboard (remember you don’t need a heavy motor!), plus a full tank of 100 litres of gasoline, plus a tank of oil in my boat…the weight difference, is nowhere near as far as you think.

250km in a single boat ride…you can appreciate that this is just a wild outlier of regular usage when referring to the recreational boating market.

I guess the same answer as when we run out of blood stained saudi oil?

Absolutely, everything about electric is higher performance than any ICB. the battery tech just needs more advancement but that doesn’t seem very concerning when you consider how far the tech has come just within the past 8? Years. boats especially, how often are you driving your outboard 300+km in a trip? the battery tech to troll all day already exists, heck most of us have an electric motor on our boats already and use it all day. imagine the hole shot?! 😮

I hope it works out dave, was speaking with Doug Gillham meteorologist from the weather network and we are quickly approaching the lowest ice coverage year in the recorded history of the Great Lakes. not good, not good at all.

if only we had some ice making weather 😒 This looks like an open water tournament for the foreseeable future. what a season were having thus far. The prizes set up for this tournament are impressive. I noticed yesterday there were already winners and they haven't even wet a line yet. Impressive.

I still see a few mr pike’s in use. You wanna talk about a bulletproof boat, sheesh

Seemingly all of my money goes into my electronics these days. Maybe I’m a gadget guy and I just didn’t realize it lol. although with the amount of laketrout fishing I do with one rod through the ice these days, I’m heavily considering getting a high quality reel for the rod. Seems worthy since it’s the only rod in my hand for 90% of the winter with parry sounds 1 rod rule.

Merry Christmas everyone, hope you are all staying somewhere warm tonight

I’m still a believer that if you want to simply invest money in your reels you’ll never be disappointed. stradic 1000’s and you’ll have an ice real that will last you a life time.