Retired 16 years , had present vehicle 3 years and put 11,000 km on it, probably only 2000 of that in winter and last year the snowblower didn't get used so not in a snow belt, be damned if I am shelling out big bucks for snow tires here on the south shore of Lake Ontario . Never put snows on my first front wheel drive car either , a '76 Rabbit and I put that through all sorts of backroads and snow when I was younger hunting rabbits and coyotes. last snows I bought were bias ply and only on the back of a '79 GMC van