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Johnny D we hold our kids close and teach them values. I have 4 daughters and they all have kids (9) we are a “family” they have respect for all of us. My parents kept us in line and we had to obey them or we got it. Today kids roam on their own and no supervision! Parents leave it up to the schools! That is crap! Teaching starts in the home. last night was and example, taught one l how to stoke a fire and then we roasted chestnuts. We sat outside and talked. He asked why am I getting smoke in my eyes, then I thought him about wind direction! Can we roast marshmallows, yes go find some, he did and and was going to hold them over the fire NO we need skewers. Do we have any? Yes we do. He told me he will always remember what we did. he’d did burn the skewer a few times, they were mini mellows. It was fun and I’m sure he will cherish what he learned. A lesson and it was fun.

My son was a 6'4" iron worker and as strong & tough as they come... (but was also gentle as a lamb)... and growing up nobody ever messed with him but whenever one of his buds was being bullied Jim went in and took care of business and the cowards never bothered his buds again.. As an adult he was sitting in a bar by himself one evening having a beer and there was a table next to him with 9 loud mouths bothering everyone around them. My son had longish hair at the time plus a diamond stud earring and one of the punks came over and started hassling him about it. Jim let it slide and just continued enjoying his beer. When he was done he got up and left the bar but was followed by the 9 and once in the parking lot they started the fight. Jim was so damned tough he took them all on and won the fight all by himself and walked away with nothing more then bloodied knuckles but left the "tough guys" with a bunch of busted faces and broken teeth. Guess what I'm saying is these kinda punks are all ages and only seem to want to cause trouble when they're in a group of like minded cowards. Probably not much anyone can do other than pound the crap outta them and hopefully let them see what it's like to be on the receiving end.

I've been thinking about this a lot and it's extremely disturbing, esp with the boy's mom there. I find I'm probably more pessimistic than others re: this and don't see any hope tbh. There will be lots of people saying the right thing but it will fade away. Bullying does not exist in a vacuum and I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of many incidents at this school .It's likely Devan was bullied during school a lot and I really wonder if anyone stood up for him when they had the chance ? It's easy to do after the fact, but less so when the rubber meets the road. But yeah, the 18 year old shld get the maximum sentence possible, esp since he was charged with 1st degree. I'd like to see the other person moved to adult as well but that's probably not going to happen. Sorry for the rant, but he shld be celebrating Thanksgiving with his family, instead a mom is mourning the loss of her son.

I hope the offenders are punished very seriously...should spend most of their life behind bars in my opinion. Disgusting what they did

But she already knows 😎

Wild second generation "co-nook" (or is that Chin-Hos) have been found on Vancouver Island. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/hybrid-salmon-discovered-by-scientists-on-vancouver-island-1.5318092?fbclid=IwAR1HK_todgQUlq-7NCUCIlSPOTSQXXICCGzZhe0EJ-XlHwAfuLTyoXrBzrA

Thanks Cliff I just pulled out some of the minis for a egg,hash brown dinner. I had a piece before frying up. Cold. OMG. Sorry for yer drool again. Me bad. LOL

I fear for my kids, but they know what to do with bullies. My son has already knocked one out cold, sticking up for someone else. Caught on video, and he did the right thing. No, he's not a fighter, and stays out of trouble, but he knows when to do the right thing and for the right reasons. (a boy hit a girl) The real problem I fear, is the consequences these punks are going to face. They will likely get a slap on the wrist. Even time in jail isn't enough IMO. I'd be doing time if it was my kid who was murdered. Proudly. Our justice system is so failed, I would have to take it in my own hands. I will be following this case to see how it pans out. These kids need to be made an example, and hammered with the harshest consequences possible, and tried as adults. We can't have kids running around who are capable of MURDER. They need to be locked up, or gone forever. I know, I sound harsh, but those are MY thoughts. This country has gotten way too soft. There's no justice in our justice system. The victims are the criminals, and pay the biggest price. Its just not right. What ever happened to an eye for an eye? I feel so bad for this child's family, especially his poor mother. My god what she must be going through. I can't even imagine. S.

My younger brothers were picked on when they were younger due to our last name. I was always in trouble due to my last name. I was able to stand up for myself. Probly why I was always getting in trouble. I would fight anyone that would try to bully to me. For that,I got in trouble as they didn't see bullying back then, just a guy that wanted to fight. I was always told,that's no reason to fight. LOL What about the other guy ? When I found out my younger brothers were getting picked on and couldn't defend them selfs, I would be stepping up to these bully's. I wasnt a tough guy, but could hold my own. With that came , others that want to try being bully's. With that came more trouble for me, but finally ,my brothers learned to stand up. Was it right ? 2 wrongs don't make a right ? If you didn't fight back,you lost. Stand up, win or lose,and get respect. Some felt the need to keep pushing, then they learned that they were looked on as a dick, and just trying to impress their so called friends. Their life lesson came to fruit when our sister was getting older and in high school. Do not mess with her, she has 3 older brothers. She hated us for keeping her safe. No boy friends were allowed unless we approved. Funny now, but not back then. Today bullying is being noticed,KUDOS to all that help, but seems not enough. You beat the crap out of a bully, you lose,unless you have witnesses that will back you up. Many kids today are ignorant to what is really out there. Is this the right word, not sure. They have no real idea of what survival is. Sad that I have to use this word, survival . Today there are many out lets to report bullying. Online,phone and the police. Do not be afraid to speak up/out. Or you could stand up, but in today's world, you get well, shot or stabbed because your not made that way. . Sorry I had to end this post with that, but it is what it is.

No John he is only 10. I take them out on walks and teach them to Respect nature and people. and yes they have iPads and the internet that can influence them. Maybe when they will be teens they will change. Hopefully not on my watch.

No trouts today for the hot box. Just a small shaker to swim on up, but No Frills has these roasts on cheap cheap. Cheap roasts mean,jerky. In the hot box Monday.

Put a mattress in the back of the “truck” and jig away!