Weeds Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Well launched the new boat old boat yesterday for the second time and found that while the motor now starts and seems to run great it won't engage in gear, either first or reverse. I adjusted the tension in the cable and it makes no difference. I'm guessing it's something enternal but would love some advice if anybody has any. Or if anybody knows a reasonable place that does boat motor work in the Peterborough area. Anyways, packed the boat back on the trailer and wandered/waded across some new shoreline. Managed a small musky (maybe 32ish) in a new spot, It's been so long since I caught one I was expecting it be a 40 before I got to see it. Easy realse. So got to try out some new gear and get that first one out of the way before noon, good start to the season if it wasn't for the motor trouble. Anybody have any thoughts on the motor? It's a console type boat with the shifter/starter/steering anyway from the motor just to clarify. Thanks, Rossco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greencoachdog Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 May be a broken cable inside the cable housing, take one end off and see if you can pull a piece out. Congrats on the Mucksie!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeds Posted June 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 May be a broken cable inside the cable housing, take one end off and see if you can pull a piece out. Congrats on the Mucksie!!! Thanks GCD. When I move the shift lever the selector on the motor moves moves into either neutral, reverse, or forward. Can even feel a slight click as it shifts. Also when the motor is in neutral I can turn the prop assembly by hand. When I put it in Forward or Reverse I can't (Naturally ther motor is off while I'm trying this). The shear pin , if thats what I'm looking at, looks fine. I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiel Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Thanks GCD. When I move the shift lever the selector on the motor moves moves into either neutral, reverse, or forward. Can even feel a slight click as it shifts. Also when the motor is in neutral I can turn the prop assembly by hand. When I put it in Forward or Reverse I can't (Naturally ther motor is off while I'm trying this). The shear pin , if thats what I'm looking at, looks fine. I dunno. Then I'd say your trouble is the connection between the motor and the shift lever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Bait Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Hey weeds, My guess would'v been shear pin as that is exactly the symptom I had when I broke mine. If not that then I couldn't tell ya. Good job on the ski tho, not all was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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glen Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 (edited) "Also when the motor is in neutral I can turn the prop assembly by hand. When I put it in Forward or Reverse I can't" That is odd because the prop not turning means it is going into gear. Can you try it with a set of muffs on. Put it in gear and see if the prop turns. Edited June 7, 2009 by glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeds Posted June 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 That'a a god idea about trying it with the muffs on. I'd at least be able to see whats going on if anything. I'll have to pick up a set/pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 What kind of motor is this? What year? Might help narrow it down...... S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeds Posted June 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 It's a 25 HP Johnson Seahorse. A sticker under the engine cover says 1977, although for some reason I thought the motor was a 74. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeds Posted June 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Has anybody ever had to replace their Clutch Dog before? Been doing some research and have a horrible feeling this could be my problem. Worn clutch dog and worn gears means big money and my wallets already worn out. Previous owner said it would occasionally slip out of forward but suggested it was just more of a shifter tension kind of thing, he'd just hold the shifter forward with a bungee cord. I'm getting that uneasy I've just been screwed feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I think that could very well be your problem. The motor is going into gear, the engine runs, but the prop won't spin..........whats missing?? I think you have your answer......... Sinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiel Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Has anybody ever had to replace their Clutch Dog before? Been doing some research and have a horrible feeling this could be my problem. Worn clutch dog and worn gears means big money and my wallets already worn out. Previous owner said it would occasionally slip out of forward but suggested it was just more of a shifter tension kind of thing, he'd just hold the shifter forward with a bungee cord. I'm getting that uneasy I've just been screwed feeling. I changed the clutch dog on my 25 Johnson Seahorse (1975), piece of cake if your mechanically inclinded. Make sure to get an extra detent spring (I wrecked one reassembling) and new seals and you might as well change the impeller while your at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeds Posted June 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I changed the clutch dog on my 25 Johnson Seahorse (1975), piece of cake if your mechanically inclinded. Make sure to get an extra detent spring (I wrecked one reassembling) and new seals and you might as well change the impeller while your at it. Spiel, did you have any forward/reverse gear left before you changed it? Did you have to change the gears as well? Do you mind me asking where you got the parts? Thanks, Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiel Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I did have forward and reverse and was able to run up to full throttle as long as I accelerated slowly, otherwise it would slip out of gear. Once I got it apart and looked it over you'd be hard pressed to see that the clutch dog was worn out, the engaging teeth were ever so slightly worn, hard to believe it could be so much of an issue. Clutch dog is a cheap fix and from what I understand they typically fail while the gears will remain intact. Anyway changing the clutch dog immediately solved the slipping out of gear. Keep in mind though that I could engage the gears even with a worn dog and when it slipped out of gear you felt it! I was able to attain the needed parts here in Hamitlon at Bay City Marine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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