123chadder Posted December 9, 2014 Report Posted December 9, 2014 hey everyone,...i dont do a lot of fly fishing,but i do a few trips a year and would love to have a quality fly combo,but carrying a 9' rod through the bush is not fun.id like a 4-6 piece kit with line,backing and a few flies..preferrably both floating and sinking line....i remember seeing a nice kit a few years ago,but i forget the name.does anyone know of a good travel combo kit?
123chadder Posted December 9, 2014 Author Report Posted December 9, 2014 it has to be strong enought to handle lake trout,its for specks and lakers
mosquito Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) I have never seen a kit that can do what you are asking. Build your own "kit", I would say an 8wt atleast. If you want keep the price down watch for sales, Cabelas has a travel fly rod that I heard was good you could look at. My first travel fly rod was a cheap Bass Pro one with a reel I got for about $60 on 50% off sale and ... it worked. I upgraded to a March Brown later but one would use up your whole budget> For a reel I have an Okuma SLV it is a reasonable reel. I would suggest going a size up in reel and having a bit of extra backing. The line is your choice. So a Bass Pro or Cabelas 4+ 8wt fly rod and reel, Say $100 (if you don't watch for sales) + a Okuma SLV another $70 + Lines for both reels $100 Less than $300 ... or maybe around $200 if you are wait and watch and are not in a rush. plus backing and leaders I would suggest watching here or some other forums and also watching Kijiji you MIGHT find someone selling what you are looking for or close enough. Good Luck Edited December 11, 2014 by mosquito
123chadder Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) thanx for the info, after about 4 hours on google i found this to be the best value http://www.orvis.com/p/encounter-8-weight-9-fly-rod-outfit/8p45 its in my price range and its very highly reviewed. Edited December 11, 2014 by 123chadder
Tim Mills Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 I bought a 4pc pack fly rod at bass pro calgary for $44.00. It casted well but I went fish less out there. Scientific anglers used to sell a good starter package but I think the rod was a 2 PC.
manjo39 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 thanx for the info, after about 4 hours on google i found this to be the best value http://www.orvis.com/p/encounter-8-weight-9-fly-rod-outfit/8p45 its in my price range and its very highly reviewed. I was looking at this a while back. That rod is $159 USD. The website states $45 standard shipping to Canada. Duty and taxes, its probably closer to $300 CAD.
123chadder Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 well thanx for bursting my bubble
Christopheraaron Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) Ummm, where are you fishing? An 8wt may be a little overkill depending on the size of lakers you're talking about. If you're just talking smaller back lake lakers around here I'd consider a 6wt. And for the line I'd look to see if you could find a Versitip system for sale (they retail for around $160 but you should be able to find one cheaper, DO NOT skimp out on line, it is by far the most important part of your setup) that way you get all of your lines in one and save on an extra spool/reel. For a rod I'd look towards Echo or TFO, both make very good starter rods, again you could look towards something used. For a reel take a look at an SLV as suggested or even a Flystart from Ross. Edited December 11, 2014 by Christopher k
BillM Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 You can even cheap out and use some leadcore to get down instead of using a full sinking line
Christopheraaron Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 You can even cheap out and use some leadcore to get down instead of using a full sinking line Leadcore goes for 30 bucks a spool, I can get a nice smooth casting poly leader for much less
123chadder Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) most trout are between 3-5 lbs,but there are monsters in the lake!30+ pounders i have a leadcore set up. seriously thinking of this... http://www.costco.ca/Amundson-Top-Expedition-Fly-fishing-Outfit.product.100129783.html there is also this: http://www.costco.ca/Amundson-Mirage-Fly-fishing-Outfit.product.100119890.html Edited December 11, 2014 by 123chadder
BillM Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Leadcore goes for 30 bucks a spool, I can get a nice smooth casting poly leader for much less Who cares about casting when you're trolling lakers and wanna get deep
bare foot wader Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 it seems like you're tying to keep the budget around $200? If you're a casual fly angler and want to switch lines, I'd go with that first costco combo and buy a sinking line for one of the cassettes...it will do everything you want it to if you have a bigger budget, say 400 or so, then lots of other options open up a lot of fly guys (all fisherman in general really) are huge gear hounds, always flipping gear...browsing classifieds would be a good idea as well
123chadder Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 its ice out,so fish will be shallower,from surface to about 25 fow....we target deeper water,40-70 feet,and look for structure at about 15-25 feet called a food shelf,lead core does great job,and fairly accurate... but last year i saw trout feeding on the surface numerous times and i think a fly set up would be a blast!especially ripping streamers with sinking line
123chadder Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 If you're a casual fly angler and want to switch lines, I'd go with that first costco combo and buy a sinking line for one of the cassettes...it will do everything you want it to i feel the same way,ill only be using it a few times a year....im still debating whether i should get a 6 or 8 weight,6 is more versatile,but i dont want to tangle with a trophy trout on a 6 weight rod,especially a smaller 6 weight reel
BillM Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 6wt/8wt not going to make a huge difference. Personally I'd go with a 6wt.
bare foot wader Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 a 6wt would be a blast on 3-5lb lakers, but may/likley struggle to cast larger streamers with a full sinking line, especially in the wind...8wt would be great for bass and pike too if you're into that
mosquito Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 OK, Lake Trout at that weight a 6wt would work and if you go with the 6wt and don't get a kit I strongly suggest you go a size larger in the reel with that bit of extra backing that is a bit heavier and a drag like on the Okuma SLV. You hook that 1 in a thousand fish and have a clicker reel or not enough backing and you will be rather upset.. ALSO ALWAYS... ALWAYS have the backing have a higher lb rating than the leader. If you get a run or a snag that has backing out you want the weak point to be the leader, watching the line zip out no longer attatched to the reel STINKS!!!! Hook, leader. line and some backing all gone... you are done unless you have a spare reel ready to go. I still suggest the 8wt and the Okuma SLV 8/9 or bigger reel. I don't know the Costco's but Cabelas has free shipping right now and there is this 6wt http://www.cabelas.ca/product/29226/st-croix-rio-santo-fly-fishing-outfit and this has a 9' 8wt 4 piece that is backorderable... double check the shipping is still free if you backorder. http://www.cabelas.ca/product/71436/cabelas-prestige-collection-fly-outfit At this time of year and heading on towards spring, watch and wait is my suggestion, know what you want but wait. Clearances, boxing days, Kijiji... lots of options and savings if you take your time.
123chadder Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 yes i agree waiting would be the best bet... so a 6 weight rod and an 8 weight reel?that makes sense.... are the akuma slv reels good?
dave524 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Definitely 8 wt if you want to get down , with fly tackle the light lines don't sink that fast or as deep cause they are lighter, whodda thunk My fav for dragging the depths was a 280 or 300 grain 30 foot shooting head on a 8/9 wt rod, used a 100 feet 20# or so Maxima Mono for shooting line on top of the backing. Cast like a bullet and worked 15 to 20 foot depth great with Muddlers or Wooly Buggers for Haliburton Smallies.
123chadder Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 Definitely 8 wt if you want to get down , with fly tackle the light lines don't sink that fast or as deep cause they are lighter, whodda thunk My fav for dragging the depths was a 280 or 300 grain 30 foot shooting head on a 8/9 wt rod, used a 100 feet 20# or so Maxima Mono for shooting line on top of the backing. Cast like a bullet and worked 15 to 20 foot depth great with Muddlers or Wooly Buggers for Haliburton Smallies. im new to fly fishing,and your last paragraph went right over my head!lol
123chadder Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Posted December 11, 2014 i think i understand....so really only need 30 feet of fly line?
dave524 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 i think i understand....so really only need 30 feet of fly line? yes it is like you purchasing the 30 foot tip section of a weight forward flyline and then using mono as the the running line instead of the light level flyline that normally comes with a WF line . You lose in finesse but gain in depth and distance cast, the finesse is not critical when fishing sub surface. Google shooting head flyline and you should get the idea. Mono is good for a sinking head but for floating heads you can get light level floating flyline specifically for that use.
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