jedimaster Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Just wondering if anyone here bought a 5x dsi and has used it on the ice. I played around with it last time and couldn't get it anywhere near what I was hoping. Let me know if you tried one and how you found it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Just wondering if anyone here bought a 5x dsi and has used it on the ice. I played around with it last time and couldn't get it anywhere near what I was hoping. Let me know if you tried one and how you found it. I have it...took some pics of what i was seeing. I could see fish fine...it just a lot of junk as well that i couldnt clean up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 I have it...took some pics of what i was seeing. I could see fish fine...it just a lot of junk as well that i couldnt clean up Clearly shows perch rising but i didnt know how to get rid of the lines. Maybe trasducer needs to be in horizontal position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Sometimes you get some clutter on the screen like you have shown. Turn down the power( gain, sensitivity) so you can still see the fish but there is less clutter. You may not be able to get rid of all the clutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 There is no sensitivity settings only contrast. You can turn on or off the surface but that's about it. Were you able to distinguish your lure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 There is no sensitivity settings only contrast. Really.... I've never seen a unit without sensitivity.... Weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 What sensitivity percentage are you at? Page 22 of your manual might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauce Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 If youre using the transducer from your boat, set it horizontally like it would be on your transom. Also, make sure that the transducer is completely below the bottom surface of the ice. Marko's screen shot looks like he's getting a return and echoes from something close to the transducer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) The transducer is long like a cigar not a normal one since its a down scanner. Holding it horizontal would shoot the beam to the other side of the lake. There is no page 22 of my manual... http://www.lowrance.ca/upload/Lowrance/Documents/Manuals/MARK-ELITE_SONAR_OM_~%5B988-10016-001%5D~_w.pdf As you can see on page 4 the DSI models can only adjust contrast, the other non dsi models can adjust the sensitivity. Edited January 6, 2013 by jedimaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Does page 5 not show an "auto sensitivity" option in the menu??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Thats not for the DSI models. As I mentioned the DSI models have no sensitivity adjustment, only contrast. From what i gather as you adjust the contrast the sensistivty is also adjusted internally. Doesn't work so well though imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handlebarz Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Are you fishing close to guys using a vex? I know when I do I get feedback from them as most guys run them at full power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Not a single person on the lake. The more I poke around the more it seems its just how these work. Meant for moving versus stationary oh well. It'll do for the limited number of times I get on the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Yea these models dont have the sensitivity adjustment...just the contrast. I played with the contrast as well...managed to "bleach" the lines but they were still there. I couldn't see my jig on it...i thought i could on few occasions but sometimes i think my eyes are playing tricks on me. There were few guys fishing around me, so it could the some kind of interference being picked up. I also noticed that lines shifted up and down as i pulled the transducer up and down. I am going to have to build some kind of a holder for a transducer so its being kept in downright position instead of just floating down in the hole. I could definitely tell when pike would move in ....the blob that fish are supposed to be is much wider and thicker then the perch ones. I am going to try to find some deeper water and test it. I`ll post the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Yah I also thought about he stick to hold the transducer down thing. Was a bit awkward to try and get it to get shooting straight down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Little holder i build from my gf`s old shoe rack....wait when she sees it hahah Nothing fancy...just to keep it straight downright the hole. I think transducer is sticking out enough..but can be adjusted easily. Thats a bad cat as well...he knows better lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drwxr Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 isn't your transducer suppose to be in horizontal position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I am not really sure. I was trying to figure that out. I watched couple of guys on the river...they would drill a hole and just throw their transducer down the hole....i assumed it stayed in vertical position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drwxr Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 that because they use ice transducer, the one you have is for boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.brock Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Yea these models dont have the sensitivity adjustment...just the contrast. I played with the contrast as well...managed to "bleach" the lines but they were still there. I couldn't see my jig on it...i thought i could on few occasions but sometimes i think my eyes are playing tricks on me. There were few guys fishing around me, so it could the some kind of interference being picked up. I also noticed that lines shifted up and down as i pulled the transducer up and down. I am going to have to build some kind of a holder for a transducer so its being kept in downright position instead of just floating down in the hole. I could definitely tell when pike would move in ....the blob that fish are supposed to be is much wider and thicker then the perch ones. I am going to try to find some deeper water and test it. I`ll post the pics. I think the deeper water will be the trick, I bet the lines are surface clutter because you're only in 5' of water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) Thats how it is supposed to go. Its long like that on purpose. if you hook it up to the suntion thingy you can see its supposed to be vertical not horrizontal. Looks like you damaged your thumb biulding that contraption. here is part of an email from lowrance with regards to this unit... How are you using this product. The optimal performance for this product is when it is scanning the bottom at slow speeds (3-5 miles per/hr). if you are using this product for stationary fishing it will not give the best picture. I am not too sure why anyone would want a portable version of a fish finder if they aren't using it while stationary. Oh well. I'll have to make do. Let me know how your elbow contraption works. Edited January 7, 2013 by jedimaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jedimaster Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) hmmm....I think I am going to have some crow for dinner... Edited January 7, 2013 by jedimaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) Here is a follow up email from lowrance... you can play with the contrast setting, this is the sensitivity setting on this model. Fish on this model will appear more as dots as opposed to arches. The brighter the dot the larger the fish. DSI models are not recommended for still fishing, we would rather go with a traditional sonar in this instance. Thank you for choosing Navico products! Oh well for 110 bucks, I will still give it a whirl for ice fishing anyway with the transducer pointed in the right direction this time. Gonna have to fab up a mount though for sure as I am not gonna sit there with my hand in the water holding the thing in the right direction. I am hoping this will work good for open water as It'll be mounted in the boat. I do alot of putting around at low speeds looking for structure so it should be great for that. Edited January 7, 2013 by jedimaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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