tizfun Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 Hey all, Heading out for the pike opener next week for a 4 day weekend and wanted to use some smelts as bait.. Does anyone know of where I can purchase any that haven't been cleaned yet ?? Went to a couple Asian markets and all have been gutted and headless.. Any help would be most appreciated... Thanks in advance. Tiz
MJL Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 I bought a few packs of the frozen smelts from an Asian grocery food store here in Scarborough around the Brimley rd & Sheppard area...Assorted sizes mixed together from 2.5 inches through to 6 inches long in each bag (only 3-4 big ones per bag) - No tails but everything else was intact...They went for $1.30 per bag with a few dozen smelts inside. I also had trouble looking for the ones with heads on - I planned to use them for lakers though. I ended up only using a few smelts and I fried up the rest...I actually fried up a bag I had left over from ice season today for lunch.LOL
waterwolf Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) whole frozen sardines are all I use during hard water.many stores, no frills , price chopper, food basics, carry whole sardines, just try to find the smaller size at this time of year. great sent trail. whole smelts are sometimes hard to find.maybe an east coast store might have 'em. either way ,sardines will always take pike on a dead-stick offering. good luck . Edited April 28, 2010 by waterwolf
waterwolf Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) good heads up on anoher bait source, thanks. Edited April 28, 2010 by waterwolf
Beats Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) They seem to be surprisingly hard to find whole. Years ago I used to buy them at Food Basics in Stratford for about $3 and change for a bag of dozens of whole smelt. Since living in London I still haven't found any but can't say I've really looked too hard, just 5 or 6 stores which have the headless, gutted variety. If you are just using them for bait, I'd be interested in knowing if the pike tend to prefer them gutted and without heads I've always figured it was more the thawing oily scent off them that attracted the pike opposed to their looks. But who knows, only ever used whole ones. Edited April 28, 2010 by Beats
Stern Rules Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 I got a bag of whole uncleaned ones at Price Chopper in Brantford for about $3 or so in December.
Dara Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 I was using them this weekend with great success. We were cutting small ones into 3 pieces and the trout didn't care. I wouldn't worry about if they are cleaned or not. PS I hear they make good bear bait too
cram Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 i don't know if its even legal to do this, but i bet using a little mackerel or something would be great for dead-baiting. They give off a lot of oil.
torco Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 Food Basic's in Guelph has whole frozen smelts. Cheap like 3/bag. Yeah Mackeral could work well, really quite large though. Big bait big fish they say!
Aaron` Posted April 30, 2010 Report Posted April 30, 2010 (edited) Wait, isn't it against the law to use smelts in ontario? Or am I getting mixed up??? Edited April 30, 2010 by Aaron`
torco Posted April 30, 2010 Report Posted April 30, 2010 (edited) I just checked the regs, you definitely can not use smelts as live bait but it made no mention of dead bait, so I don't know. Never fished with them myself, I just know they sell them a food basics. Edited April 30, 2010 by torco
Aaron` Posted April 30, 2010 Report Posted April 30, 2010 Smelts can't be used as live bait according to regs, but what about dead bait? Anyone?
The JAY Posted April 30, 2010 Report Posted April 30, 2010 I know what logic dictates... But that usually has little to do with the Ministry Regs....
Woodsman Posted April 30, 2010 Report Posted April 30, 2010 Legal as dead bait unless stated in the zone exceptions.
tizfun Posted May 5, 2010 Author Report Posted May 5, 2010 Thanks for all the tips everyone. Found some at an Asian Store in Pickering. $1.29/bag, but they are mixed and there seems to be more smaller that the ones I had hoped for.. Will try a couple more places before our weekend getaway this weekend.. Thanks again to all... Will post pics when I get back.. Tiz
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