doubleheader Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Good morning everyone. Can anyone comment relative to the accuracy and detail of this chip on the west arm of Nipissing? Are all the reefs accurately marked and located? I've been toying with adding a kicker motor but wonder if this chip wouldn't be an effective and inexpensive solution. Appreciate your feedback and have a great day. BTW, Cabelas has this chip ofr sale @ $99. Maybe cheaper elsewhere but just thought I'd add that to all interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I picked up the Hotmap Premiun 07 last year for the West Arm and was very impressed with it. I purposely came in close to alot of the structure to check the accuracy of the map and for the most part it was right on, but that's no guarantee that everything is marked 100%. I spent 5 days cruising the Arm last August and had no problems at all. Just be aware though, that NOTHING on the West Arm west of Hwy 64 is marked, it only shows the area to the east. $99 for that chart is an incredible price, I think I payed $175 at West Marine in Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garyv Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) Before I purchased one I asked lew about his. He told me the chip does not cover west of highway 64 but he was satisfied with the detail east. Perhaps you should PM him about it. Also make sure the $99 is not the 2006 chip as there are far less lakes on it. Oops guess Lew beat me Edited January 25, 2008 by Garyv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) It sure takes the jitters out of "playing" in Muskrat bay for sure ! Only shoaled the boat once (getting tooooo daring)...vs who knows how many times it would have happened trying to remember where we were on the paper map. It's very accurate...so accurate that a day out with me changed Lew's train of thought and he bought his chip. And like Lew states... it shows NOTHING West of #64 Edited January 25, 2008 by irishfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeCarlos Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Do you know wich Navionic card will show lake Simcoe?? thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skeeter99 Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) hold off if you are buying one right now ie. 2006 or 2007 the new one for 2008 should be out in stores by febraury and they have added 33 lakes and alot of high definition maps of lakes already previously there here are the links http://www.navionics.com/HMPremium08Catalog.asp http://www.navionics.com/Premium08LakeList.asp?RegionID=5 that is why the 2006 and 2007 chips are $99, still a great deal with lots of lakes it shows everything in lake simcoe, very detailed Edited January 25, 2008 by skeeter99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skeeter99 Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 well thanks guys for reminding me about this, they finally got the new one in stock for canada i just ordered mine from bass pro $149 for a total of $169.95 shipped to my door I wanted to upgrade my gold card anyway now does anyone want to buy a navionics gold card for east great lakes and includes the kawarthas for $50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleheader Posted January 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 It sounds like the 07 chip is a worthwhile investment. For my purpose I'll be using the chip for the west arm exclusively and don't care too much about west of the Rt 64 bridge. Will the 08 chip be better than the 07 for areas east of the bridge? I'm waiting for an answer from Navionics, but in the meantime I snatched up one of the 07 chips from Cabelas thinking I could return it unopened in the unlikley chance Nipissing was substantially improved for 08. All I really care about is from Rt 64 east to the main lake; I've never even been further east than that. Hope it helps me stay off the reefs. They seem to attarct me like magnets. Thanks for the feedback everyone, it is very much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITEME Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Navionics HotMaps Premium Canada 2008 Freshwater Fishing Maps i LOOKED ON THE LAKE LIST and it does not have LAKE ONTARIO is this just left out because it is a great lake or is it included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerritt Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) Because it is a great lake you need a different chip then the C3 for the GL's.. I am picking up my 08 once Jos has stock. G Edited January 25, 2008 by Gerritt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleheader Posted January 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I found this regarding the 2008 update on another site: NEW 2008 Survey Lakes (the best data we have-collected by Navionics survey teams) Buckhorn lake Ontario New Survey Lake 2008 Chemong Lake Ontario New Survey Lake 2008 Otonabee River Ontario New Survey Lake 2008 Pigeon Lake Ontario New Survey Lake 2008 Scugog Lake Ontario New Survey Lake 2008 Scugog River Ontario New Survey Lake 2008 Stony Lake Ontario New Survey Lake 2008 Sturgeon Lake Ontario New Survey Lake 2008 Lac Des Trente Et Un Milles Quebec New Survey Lake 2008 Lac Du Poisson Blanc Quebec New Survey Lake 2008 Lac Memphrémagog Quebec New Survey Lake 2008 Lac Victoria Quebec New Survey Lake 2008 Réservoir l'Escalier Quebec New Survey Lake 2008 NEW non-survey lakes added for 2008 Abamategwia Lake Ontario Adam Lake Ontario Agimak Lake Ontario Agonzon Lake Ontario Ahmic Lake Ontario Anishinabi Lake Ontario Aylen Lake Ontario Beatty Lake Ontario Bennet Lake Ontario Berens Lake Ontario Biddy Lake Ontario Big Clear Lake Ontario Big Salmon Lake Ontario Birch Lake Ontario Blackwater Lake Ontario Borden Lake Ontario Buckshot Lake Ontario Burrows Lake Ontario Burrows Lake Ontario Canonto Lake Ontario Canthook Lake Ontario Catchacoma Narrows Lake Ontario Cecil Lake Ontario Centennial Lake Ontario Clearwater West Lake Ontario Clearwater West Lake Ontario Coli Lake Ontario Confusion Lake Ontario Consecon Lake Ontario Constance Lake Ontario Copper Lake Ontario Crystal Lake Ontario Dalhousie Lake Ontario Daniels Lake Ontario Dead Otter Lake Ontario Dorothy Lake Ontario East Barbara Lake Ontario Ellis Lake Ontario Elm Lake Ontario Eskwanonwatin Lake Ontario Esnagami Lake Ontario Esnagami Lake Ontario Eva Lake Ontario Eva Lake Ontario Factor Lake Ontario Fallingsnow Lake Ontario Fernow Lake Ontario Finlayson Lake Ontario Finlayson Lake Ontario Fortune Lake Ontario Fushimi Lake Ontario Gathering Lake Ontario Gerogia Lake Ontario Golden Lake Ontario Gould Lake Ontario Granite Lake Ontario Greehedge Lake Ontario Greenwater Lake Ontario Greenwater Lake Ontario Gull Lake Ontario Hungry Lake Ontario Huronian Lake Ontario Icarus Lake Ontario Iron Range Lake Ontario Ivanhoe Lake Ontario Jackinnes Lake Ontario Kabinakagami Lake Ontario Kabinakagami Lake Ontario Kabitotikwia Lake Ontario Kamaniskeg Lake Ontario Kashawakamak Lake Ontario Kennebec Lake Ontario Kenogamisis Lake Ontario Kenogamisis Lake Ontario Kirkness Lake Ontario Knowlton Lake Ontario Kukukus Lake Ontario Kwinkwanga Lake Ontario Lady Evelyn Lake Ontario Little Abitibi Lake Ontario Mackie Lake Ontario Marie Louise Lake Ontario McKay Lake Ontario McKenzie Lake Ontario Mississagagon Lake Ontario Mississauga Lake Ontario Moraine Lake Ontario Mosque Lake Ontario North Wind Lake Ontario Nym Lake Ontario Obonga Lake Ontario Onamakawash Lake Ontario Onaman Lake Ontario Pagwachuan Lake Ontario Pakashkan Lake Ontario Partridge Lake Ontario Patterson Lake Ontario Perch Lake Ontario Perch Lake Ontario Peterwhite Lake Ontario Poshkokagan Lake Ontario Prelate Lake Ontario Pringle Lake Ontario Redhorse Lake Ontario Reta Lake Ontario Round Schooner Lake Ontario Rudge Lake Ontario Salmon Lake Ontario Scugog Lake Ontario Serpentine Lake Ontario Shaco Lake Ontario Shawanabis Lake Ontario Shawenegog Lake Ontario Silver Lake Ontario Smoothrock Lake Ontario Sunbow Lake Ontario Sunset Lake Ontario Sydenham lake Ontario Thirty Island Lake Ontario Trapnarrows Lake Ontario Upper Twin Lake Ontario Voltaire Lake Ontario Wabikoba Lake Ontario Wawang Lake Ontario Waweig lake Ontario Weikwabinonaw Lake Ontario Weller's Bay Ontario Wensley Lake Ontario West Lake Ontario White Otter Lake Ontario Whitesand Lake Ontario Wildgoose Lake Ontario Wintering Lake Ontario Grand lac Bostonnais Quebec Lac Beauchêne Quebec Lac Bryson Quebec Lac Carrière Quebec Lac des Commissaires Quebec Lac Désert Quebec Lac du Bras Coupé Quebec Lac Dufault Quebec Lac Édouard Quebec Lac Faillon Quebec Lac Jean-Péré Quebec Lac Preissac Quebec Lac Wayagamac Quebec The following are not new, but UPDATED for 2008 (usually means more/better info or accuracy corrections...sometimes it is hard to see the differences) Wolfe Lake Ontario White Lake Ontario Suel Lake(Lac Seul) Ontario Six Mile Lake Ontario Redstone Lake Ontario Paudash and Lower Paudash Lakes Ontario Otty Lake Ontario Mississipi Lake Ontario Loughborough Lake Ontario Lake Three Mile Ontario Lake Temagami Ontario Lake Opinicon Ontario Lake Mazinaw Ontario Kennisis Lake Ontario Kawagama Lake Ontario Kahshe Lake Ontario Jack Lake Ontario Healey Lake Ontario Haliburton Lake Ontario Gull Lake Ontario Eagle Lake Ontario Devil Lake Ontario Charleston Lake Ontario Chandos Lake Ontario Bobs & Crow Lake Ontario Black Lake Ontario Big Gull Lake Ontario Baptisite and Elephant Lakes Ontario Lac Waconichi Quebec Lac Mistassini Quebec Lac Brome Quebec Lac Albanel Quebec Okanagan Lake British Columbia Réservior Gouin Quebec Thought you all might want to know. BTW it appears Nipissing is unchanged from 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Clemens Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I think I paid about 149.00 US from GPS City last year and also received a $50.00 rebate coupon. Total cost to me $99.00 US plus S/H. Kinda neat to go west of 64 and see yourself motoring along on dry ground. Maybe someday it will be updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Kinda neat to go west of 64 and see yourself motoring along on dry ground. Maybe someday it will be updated. Was kinda funny looking on the screen for sure..line on a blank background...... but you can still mark your waypoints when you find fish. And follow your line in the dark without hitting the shoals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skeeter99 Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 that's right irish, if you make it there without crashing stick to that line like glue and you will be good, and for that matter save it as a trail so you will have it forever!!! then of course offload all your wayppoints and trails onto your pc in case your gps goes south on you and you will have a backup file happened to me once already gps died, lost a few newer points but nothing to hard that I could not find again and remark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Just be sure that you are on FULL zoom when following your trail ! It gets expensive when you don't...as Bcanuck/Joe/Art and myself found out one evening on Nipissing in 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Peter, the way I see it is this. Navionics is good stuff but it's basically offered in two main categories, marine charts and lake maps. At the begining there were just marine charts. At that time, not every Tom, Dick and Harry had a chartplotter. Consequently, they were offering the marine charts to people using "navigable waters" which for North America included the entire west coast (Pacific) and the entire East coast (Atlantic). This also included main inland waterways such as the St Lawrence to the Great Lakes. In our case, there were three usable chips for Ontario and Quebec. The 900, 901 and 902 chips which covered some of the great Lakes and the Larry all the way out to the Maritimes. The middle chip, the 901, has Lake Ontario the Rideau System (navigable) the Trent System (navigable) which includes the Kawarthas. Georgian Bay and Lake simcoe was/is on that one as well. Well, wouldn't you know it, the powers that be saw fit to remove the errors in satelite transmission making reception of more accurate location available to everyone. Plotters came down in price and we now had folks screaming to have their favorite lakes available....not an easy task. So, Navionics adds another series of maps to their lineup and call them lake maps. These are more or less an addendum chip to the marine charts because of customer demand. These lake chips were available for 5 or 6 sections of the States and one section for Canada. The Canadian lakes chip had (very approximate numbers) 40 lakes in BC, a few in Alberta, 4 in Saskatchewan, 80-90 in Ontario and about 120 in Quebec. The maps of the main navigable waterways (marine charts) were the same maps you were buying for $20 or so for a very small section from the Canadian government. Today, they are adding maps as demand warrants and as they are available to them from what I can see. So, today, if you buy a lakes map, there are chances that there won't be any waters that are contained in the marine charts. That should be fairly clear......it's only 6:30PM :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITEME Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Thanks ROY your the Bestest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Shirley Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 I have both the Great Lakes charts and Hotmaps Premium Canada, and I love them both. The Great Lakes charts are quite accurate. The Hotmaps Premium Canada isn't all that accurate, but close. I found that out quickly, narrowly missing a reef one day in the middle of a lake that wasn't on the Hotmaps Premium. The Hotmaps Premium is a great starting point and it gives you most of the structure on the lakes, helping to narrow your search for potential fishing spots... I would say about 90 percent. You do have to be careful navigating with Hotmaps though. Lakes on the Great Lakes Charts that are also on the Hotmaps Premium Canada have more detail on the Great Lakes Charts - FYI. I can't live without both Navionics SD cards. What did we do before we had these? Oh yeah, triagulate spots until you find your spot and mark a waypoint, haha. Which I still have to do on lakes that aren't on the Navionics charts. Aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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