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I paid $500 for my, as new, 12 full transom last year.

Yep.. the 200 and my 275 both have oil filters. The 9.9 does not and why I won't run a synthetic or a blend in it. Suspension of contaminants with dinsasour oil = engine longevity. With the Verado.. I figure if Merc took the time to (get someone to ) reformulate the oil specifically for it in 2008.... and it's a Synthetic/Dinasour blend as well.. if they felt the engine could be better served by full synthetic they would have gone that route. Suspecting the high temps of the supercharger, etc need the dinasour oil to carry away the contaminants to the filter. They also claim higher shear strength with the blend than full synthetic and less oil consumption. I'm no expert on it when it comes to outboards... but when it comes to airplanes I have over a dozen pilots (+ their passengers) lives that depend on my oil/ maintenance decisions and (so far ) they're all happy.

No wonder my airplane had trouble taking off last September....

Someone.. Mobil 1.. tried to get fancy with airplane oil once and it only cost them about 30 million in engine overhauls! There be no sythetic oil running in lycomings and continentals that is certified. They've tried and all run away with their tails between their legs! For one thing, synthetics are only partly compatible with petroleum oils and, more importantly, with seals and gaskets that are used in aircraft engines. There is no doubt that when switching aircraft engines over to synthetic that the likelihood of seal and gasket failure is quite high. The longer the engine has been operated since overhaul, the higher the risk. Anyone who says otherwise is not being straight with you. Another problem is that synthetics do a VERY lousy job of holding contaminants in suspension, which is a big issue with an aircraft engine that is not running a filter (most don't). They run on a screen only. If you doubt that, ask the synthetic oil people why they don't sell an approved AD aircraft piston engine oil. That said... 9.9's (well at least Paul's and mine) don't have an oil filter either. I will not use a synthetic oil in it, period!

In the words of Kenny Rogers.. "learn when to fold'm.. learn when to hold'm.. learn when to walk away.. learn when to run". Sound like you have the same agent that told my wife, 27 years ago, that the block wall in a crawl space in Milton was wet... "because the wife was a meticulous cleaner". It's a hard decission fella.. that only you can make. How bad do you want to live there and are you ready to deal with the situation if it goes "south" on you?

Well.. looks like you finally made it to town Dave!! Son can't bear to look at you.. but none the less!!!

20W40 or 10W30... both recommended depending on temp range. Considering I do a lot of trolling in the cold, I use 10W30. The marina uses Esso in all of their outboards (suspect since that's where they get their gas!) and so do I in the Kicker. Plain old oil.. it doesn't need anything better. As for any savings.. on 10 ounces of oil !

Well you know the thing is a dinasour (aka..tower of power) so it needs some fossil oil to run it properly...

It's already running on a synthetic blend.. do not go full synthetic. They use to recommend 20W40 synthetic blend. Then the year after I bought mine they came out with a specific 25W50 synthetic blend just for the Verado. Weird part.. special oil.. lower sale volume.. CHEAPER price. It's $10 cheaper a gallon than the 20W40 !

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO......

Very NICE Darren !!!! Thinking I need to go get the boat wet....

I'd give Bernie's brother at Giesler Marine a shot at a quote bowslayer. www.gieslermarine.com

Okay,, we'll look again before officially snitchen on them.. but there was nothing last week in Midland on King... and Son says nothing in Penetang store either. I'll have a look if I get up town tomorrow or Wednesday.

So what's the deal with Midland and Penetang Dave??

DANG.. there goes supper! That DEER shedding.. good for tying hair jigs?

I'll try to keep it under $9 a can for you! Your wife can drink for free...

Okay... you can sniff out cold beer.. correct???

When Dan?

Maybe if Peter had of used some OSB in that place.. they wouldn't have had to file for protection...

Thanks for sharing Dan !!!

.. be thankful that he was honest and told you!! Most don't ask.. don't tell and don't know until the lien holder comes knocking. Always be alert... name on vessel licence.. matches seller.. get his DOB.. First and last name.. address and serial number on the item you are buying and call Consumer and Commercial Relations to check for liens. My link Now dealt with by ServiceOntario.

Typical "glass house syndrome" Terry. You know the Cottage Ass ociation I'm dealing with... appears they all operate the same way.

Cancer is cancer I guess.. be it cheek or lung !