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It’s not that complicated. The us government alone spent 1.6 billion dollars on the thing. the world was able to develop COVID-19 vaccines so quickly because of years of previous research on related viruses and faster ways to manufacture vaccines, enormous funding that allowed firms to run multiple trials in parallel, and regulators moving more quickly than normal

You mean...like the flu shot? Lol what? Here we go with the “globalist, new world order” conspiracy about a depopulation agenda and that they are using mass vaccination with some form of agenda either through “mind control” or “sterilization” somehow these shadowy figures have convinced everyone working in the healthcare industry to play along, however 1 Whistle blower lady that has had all of her accreditation’s removed due to her constant promotion of conspiracy based medical information is the only one speaking the truth. The collective of politicians, canadian medical profession the pharmaceutical industry and main stream media are all lying to us in some form of grand collaboration to hurt everyone for the sake of profit . Oh also, collapsing the stock market and enforcing lock downs that collapse the retail industry in the name of creating profits for pharmaceutical companies and Amazon specifically makes a lot of sense too. you guys are way too much. SMH I can’t even believe I’m taking time to respond lmao. It must suck to live in a completely paranoid state believing that everyone is out to get you.

You mean obtain accreditation from a post secondary institution and then obtain a doctorate that allows for you to formally document your paper. Conduct a significant study and then publish it for peer review by other scientists. Upon approval you can then publish your findings...or do you mean just watch a bunch of YouTube? the thought of non medical professionals conducting their own research to become enlightened and “woke” on how to treat disease is dangerous. go, talk to your doctor, and then go and seek a second, third even fourth opinion in person and then you can make an informed decision.

Maybe there’s a better job to be done there then? I get that they make efforts to try and educate the public so that people let them go when they accidentlY catch them. And try and educate people on how to differentiate them from pike. but if you have a group of 1000 guys that are specifically targeting them you’d think there would be a standard protocol for fish management that’s shared by the group? like these guys were throwing fish on the floor of the boat, yanking big trebles out, taking photos before reviving, not reviving the fish fully before releasing...like basically doing everything you can do wrong as an amateur wrong. With a big muskies canada sticker on the side of the boat lmao.

The virus is not 99% recoverable...not sure where you are getting that statistic from? Clearly Facebook or some other incorrect source? The death rate currently stands at 2.7% in ontario its still 5% if you are over age 60 and 24% if you are age 80+ 16 people in their 20’s and 30’s have died from covid in Ontario by the way this is all from a preventable disease. Could you imagine in a normal year if 4,000 people died from something preventable how much of a news story that would be? Want some shocking perspective? Just under 1/3 of as many people have died from covid in canada in 9 months as the amount of Canadians that died during the entire course of fighting in world war 2. Let that sink in for a minute. It’s shocking

I’m not really for directly quoting and pointing fingers at specific members. I prefer to simply post relevant factual based information sourced from legitimate scientific sources. call them “debunking” dangerous misinformation that’s being spread by Russian bots, internet trolls and conspiracy theory enthusiasts all over the internet. The “information” if you can call it that is literally dangerous and can cause people serious harm. there are a number of posts in this very thread that question basic vaccines like the flu shot. The entire “anti flu shot” sentiment is 100% based in YouTube based conspiracy theories linked to Saros and the new world order. Enough said

sprouts are disgusting unless managed by a good chef. Like a lot of things, if you cook it like an old british person its probably going to taste awful. If you boil and steam crap and dont season it, its going to taste like absolute garbage. I am a huge fan of veggies of all types, but holy cow I will not eat steamed soft carrots etc. Frozen vegetables? Yuck Best way ive ever eaten brussel sprouts, halved baked with olive oil until browned, then placed into baked proscuitto cups with fig and a balsamic glaze drizzled on it...wow

and look bad risking their possibility of re-election? Ha! Theres always a scapegoat isnt there. This is how I feel about a lot of this type of stuff...ive always been confused why people need to go to great lengths to create conspiracies when the truth is just as shocking and interesting lol. Thats the thing, scandalous type stuff always ends up making its way out because its almost impossible to keep secrets, especially in 2020. Even more so when multiple people need to be involved. The truth can make for some really interesting reading! lol

crime of neccessity...people are so scabby that the experts knew that if they told people to wear masks, there would have been a shortage of PPE available for medical professionals treating people with covid. You cant trust the idiots in society to not hoard toilet paper, imagine they let the public have a free for all on PPE.

Lol out of all of the food available at the grocery store, I’m not sure how someone looks at one of those things and says to themselves, mmmm delicious

Grimsby has got a point. Heck the same goes for walleye. No big deal to have 100 boats in one small stretch of water keeping two fish per person meanwhile if you target bass in may...and let’s get serious bass arent spawning in 40 degree water, then game over. oh it’s also cool to keep 30 crappies a day im a big believer that our protection of them during late may and June is paramount to protecting the fishery, but I have no clue why they are closed all winter aside from the fact they stack up. This reg makes sense to me. for people asking about my muskys canada comment, I’ve had the pleasure of fishing with Fisherpete who without putting words in his mouth quit attending muskies canada meetings because he didn’t agree with how some guys truly were handling the resource. I think he said something along the lines of “it’s just an excuse for those guys to drink beer” When I fished with pete he took absolutely every single precaution available to him to ensure the fish survived and low and behold we never lost a fish over multiple trips. and then through a friend I went fishing with a couple of muskies canada members and watching how they handled the fish we caught I was stunned. I thought they would all consistently take utmost care of the fish being “members” and I wouldn’t call it anything close to the care that pete takes. let’s just say I’m glad I learned fish care from pete...his methods can be used for all species and I do use them for everything and subsequently very rarely have difficulty releasing fish, to the point that they almost never even need any form of reviving.

thats exactly it...there is a large subset of the population that wont be afforded the luxury of getting the shot to be protected, they are reliant on healthy people to squash the virus out. Allowing it to continue to flow through the community because "im healthy" while equating a death sentence to people with cancer, COPD, or heart conditions isnt really a brotherly thing to do to other canadians. Sometimes its hard to believe that only a couple of generations ago, people in the prime of their lives voluntarily signed up to place their lives in extreme peril in the name of defending their neighbors...

yet the extremely real threat of covid does not? Im not sure people are grasping the lethality of the virus? If i gave you a gun with a 100 round clip and put 4 bullets in it (attempting to account for your age...im not 100% certain how old you are Terry but im ballparking) and told you to pull the trigger...or told you to take the covid vaccine, youd choose putting the gun to your head? Even then...if you manage to survive putting the gun to your head...anyone you saw for the over the course of the few days that you werent experiencing symptoms, now also has to take said same gun and put it up to their head as well...would that maybe change your mind? This isnt all about protecting yourself remember. Its about protecting your family and neighbors or the guy at the grocery store. I think that seems to get lost on some people. I dont doubt that if I got covid I would survive just fine like most young healthy people, but damn it scares the hell out of me that I might give it to my parents, neighbor...anyone really...I couldnt live with the guilt if i inadvertently caused someone harm because i chose to be skeptical of science and doctors.

Thinking that there’s some kind of grand conspiracy at play, while the #1 vaccine priority group is healthcare workers...during a pandemic while the resource is already stretched to the max. I don’t know what to tell you, you can lead a horse to water...

Same here...my friend doesn’t work specifically in vaccines, he actually works in the development of dermal alcohol readings after starting his career in cancer treatment drug development. They are trying to figure out how to make vehicles that take blood alcohol/drug readings while you drive a school bus or other important vehicles but understands the science vaccine development. He’s laid it out clear as day, I’m not smart enough to understand it all, but there’s absolutely nothing fishy going on from his perspective so i have to take his word for it. I absolutely am for any drug that can assist with fighting this virus, the more drugs available to beat it and the more people treated the faster we get this stupid thing over with. I also believe that much like these vaccines, they should undergo a clinical trial. My understanding is that there is nothing barring the manufactures of invermin from engaging in one and then subsequently requesting approval once complete? Why is this not being done? I don’t personally have the answer. also is this not something that folks who take the “I’m going to wait a long time to get it” approach have not considered? If a significant portion of the population does not get vaccinated, we quite literally are never going to get past this thing. All of those lock down measures that you hate so much...are going to go on and on and on. It’s as if the people just figure they won’t get sick? Or will catch it and then it doesn’t matter anymore? I’m not sure I can explain their logic? there are already many confirmed cases of people catching covid two times by the way, there’s are very very strong doubts now that any form of “strong immunity” is available as a result of contracting the virus. You may not die from the second bout but you are indeed contagious and will potentially kill a family member or neighbor. The man with the most followers on Instagram in the entire world has contracted covid twice now...is that high profile enough for everyone to ensure it’s not another conspiracy?

Ya and so is the population of the world...exponentially And the treatment of said diseases has also advanced exponentially over time by none other than the efforts of the medical and scientific community...

To everyone saying, how can this vaccine be developed so quickly...it’s because the type of vaccine has been in development for treatment of cancer, flu viruses and HIV. With the amount of funding made available by countries collectively funding the development of a vaccine, here we are. Just a coincidence but my friend with the doctorate in biology shared this right after I posted. Here it is laid out for stupid idiots such as myself...and even now I still don’t totally understand what I’m reading because low and behold I don’t have a degree in biology! Luckily smart people do though to save our bloody lives

pretty straightforward: Direct from the FDA If you think there is some form of grand conspiracy occurring to utilize the vaccine to harm the population then I dont know what else to tell you. Once again, the side effects if any shown in the clinical trials were minimal to nill, meanwhile covid has killed almost 14 thousand Canadians in 9 months and an additional 5000 of those people required to be admitted to the ICU in order to have their lives saved...those stats scare me a hell of a lot more then the "side effect stats" that have come out based on the clinical trials of the covid vaccine. The vaccine is basically a flu shot, ive gotten a flu shot almost every year since they have become available, no adverse side effects what so ever except a bit of a runny nose this year after getting the nasal version this year due to the shortage. Go figure, the one year I didnt get the shot I got a really bad case of influenza where i considered calling an ambulance for myself if my condition got slightly worse. A direct family member of mine is a doctor, he says outright the biggest issue with doing his job now is convincing people that he is a doctor and has their best interests in mind. Because apparently everyone has now completed 8 years of schooling because they own an iphone with google. Another close friend has a doctorate in biochemistry and works on developing medicines, he struggles greatly with the fact that facebook conversations have begun discrediting his commitment to the work that he does. It doesn't paint a great picture of society to be honest. Very intelligent people dont become doctors or biochemists and spend 8 years of their life plotting how they can work with Bill Gates to kill you...i can assure you of that. Some of the side-effects that may be associated with ivermectin include skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events (dizziness, seizures, confusion), sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury (hepatitis). Laboratory test abnormalities include decrease in white cell count and elevated liver tests. Any use of ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 should be avoided as its benefits and safety for these purposes have not been established. Data from clinical trials are necessary for us to determine whether ivermectin is safe and effective in treating or preventing COVID-19.

lol so you were aware of that one as well. The best part were the simps trying to stand up for her ahahha

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/ivermectin-is-still-not-a-miracle-cure-for-covid-19-despite-what-you-may-have-read-144569 america is a scary place...it’s legal to pay a doctor to recommend your drug. the main problem with ivermectin is the associated side effects experienced by those that take a high enough dose to defeat covid 19. Side effects such as nausea and dizzyness are experienced in 50% of people that take it...yes you read that right, 50% yes of course preventing covid is important, but these drugs can be used effectively to treat covid, but the argument is that a vaccine will prevent covid with minimal to no side effects. you may see a bunch of people talking about Bell’s palsy in 2 of the European people in the clinical trial...the funny thing about that was that the incidence of Bell’s palsy associated with that trial was actually lower than the normal incidence of Bell’s palsy in regular people in every day life. I.e. less people got Bell’s palsy than they normally would have covid vaccine or not.

The internet is a good thing for policing that kinda crap bill. Recently a Instagram chick got caught up transporting fish around for pro staff shots illegally and regular folks picked up on it and basically shut her up Instagram down and made her lose her crappy little sponsorship. if people are doing what they are doing within the regs and at the end of it all still put the fish back to live another day then so be it. I’ve watched how “musky canada” guys apparently think is the right way to handle musky (thats another story)...it definitely doesn’t look like putting a bass in a live well by itself for a bit while on a good bite to see if you can get a second big one. I’m also not opposed to tournament angling personally if things are being done right either. But of course to each his own. I am more concerned about people just taking fish to eat but at the same time I think the time of year for the most part would have me believe that only the most hardcore anglers will be dunking boats in April to chase smallies. When was the last time you even saw a boat aside from in the Larry targeting bass? Lots of shore guys around but not many boaters. More importantly maybe it will reduce some of the clowns that I see every year throwing spinner baits and whacky rigs for musky and pike in early June...probably not though who am I kidding.

\I think this is something that is going to be tested in Zone 20 and eventually make its way across all of the regs. To me it makes total sense to give the bass even more time to finish up spawning while they are guarding nests. I take a week off every year at opener and its incredible the transition of the fish over a 7 day period and the difference it makes on catch rates. Especially in colder years those first few days the fish are still dirt shallow and by the end of the week they are out into 10 fow. If you gave them the extra week I am certain you would be saving a lot of fish, especially from tournament pressure where anglers are taking the fish and totally relocating them. The most important part about this change is that it opens up the pre-spawn bite to recreational anglers but unless you have an implemented MLF style digital tournament set up, these regs completely eliminate the possibility of tournaments until July while allowing recreational anglers to target some big big fish. I dont know about anyone else but I am beyond stoked at the opportunity to take a few of those warm March/april and even early may days and target some giant bass out of Hamilton and the Toronto islands. Ill see you guys out there on lake O, ill be in the white skeeter!

lol when i saw this thread I thought it was referring to a "couch" report...because all of us seem to be stuck with our boats put away and little to no ice on our lakes lol

Jeeez those things are beautiful!

Little cold snap to start the week. It’s going to refreeze, let’s see how much it puts on. Supposed to be close to -20 on g bay tuesday night and three straight days below -15 at night with no snow cover. I might be ice fishing close to home on Christmas. We shall see