i went to crappy tyre in guelph and asked for hankook I pike winter tire and when i picked it up the next day it had goodyear nordic the hankook cost 80 each plus and the nordic was 130plus , after tell them to change the tires cause i wont pay the difference they gave me them for the cost of the hankook @80 each? stupid idiots,how do they make money? oh ya rip off other members like Beats to get the cash lost..