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Current Ministry of Natural Resources Job Listings: Note Locations!!! PUBLISHED ON POSITION TITLE MINISTRY PAY RATE 03/30/2007 PARK TECHNICIAN Natural Resources Goderich $19.72 - $21.31 hourly 03/30/2007 PARK STORE LEADER Natural Resources Grand Bend $19.72 - $20.71 hourly 03/30/2007 HEAD GATE ATTENDANT / REVENUE CLERK Natural Resources Goderich $18.88 - $21.22 hourly 03/30/2007 SEASONAL PARK WARDEN Natural Resources Kakabeka Falls (4853 Hwy 11/17) $19.72 - $21.31 hourly 03/30/2007 SEASONAL FIRE MANAGEMENT TECHNICIAN Natural Resources Pickle Lake (3 Airport Rd W) $21.03 - $22.69 hourly 03/30/2007 NATURAL HERITAGE PROJECT BOTANIST Natural Resources Peterborough $973.70 - $1,265.30 weekly 03/30/2007 CANINE OFFICER Natural Resources North Bay $28.44 - $30.77 hourly 03/30/2007 CONSERVATION OFFICERS Natural Resources Clinton (one permanent position); Vineland (one permanent position); Sioux Lookout (two permanent positions); Thunder Bay (one six-month contract) $28.44 - $30.77 hourly 03/23/2007 MAINTENANCE FOREMAN Natural Resources Nobel (Killbear Provincial Park) $22.54 - $23.71 hourly 03/23/2007 INFORMATION MANAGEMENT GIS TECHNICIAN Natural Resources Sudbury (3767 Hwy 69 S) $21.03 - $22.69 hourly 03/23/2007 BEAR MANAGEMENT TECHNICIAN Natural Resources Kirkland Lake (10 Government Rd) $21.03 - $22.69 hourly 03/23/2007 PLANNER/WRITER (Amended) Natural Resources Toronto $1,268.84 - $1,534.34 weekly 03/23/2007 RABIES TECHNICIAN - ANIMAL CARE Natural Resources Codrington $19.72 - $21.31 hourly 03/23/2007 PROJECT ENGINEER Natural Resources South Porcupine (Hwy 101) $58,870.00 - $70,926.00 annually 03/23/2007 REGIONAL AQUATIC SCIENCE ANALYSTS Natural Resources Sutton West and Lindsay $973.70 - $1,265.30 weekly 03/23/2007 AREA FORESTER (RPF) Natural Resources Ignace (Hwy 17 & Hwy 599) $1,056.04 - $1,265.30 weekly 03/16/2007 AVIONICS TECHNICIAN Natural Resources Sault Ste. Marie (475 Airport Rd) $911.83 - $1,073.39 weekly

Hey shoreman, I am a Fish & Wildlife Technician graduate from Fleming, I am also currently employed as an Oracle Database Administrator After I graduated there was a surprising shortage of 'real' jobs available. Sure I could have gained experience with the travelling sea lamprey control program, but pay wasn't exactly in line with what I thought my earning potential would be with my diploma. I chose to return to college (Mohawk in Hamilton) and took a Networking & Hardware Tech. diploma course. It landed me a decent position when I graduated (~$35K a year) and has opened doors to many other job opportunities including where I work today. You have to ask yourself a serious question: What is the lifestyle I want to live, and can I accept making minimal wages doing what I enjoy? (aka Career in Ontario Natural Resources) I am sure there are some high-paying jobs in Natural Resources (Check GOjobs), but the vast majority are $20-$25k/yr positions (Not that there is anything wrong with that, but have you seen the price of fishing tackle these days?!) Someday I would like to work in the outdoors, possibly with the MNR, but with the Government strategy of continual cutbacks, I wouldn't recommend investing your life's savings into an education at Fleming -- based on my personal experience. All that being said, I immensely enjoyed my time at Fleming and the courses were very interesting to me, and the instructors were outstanding! (I actually got to say Hi to John Knight at the Sportsman Show - awesome guy) I was really pumped about continuing what I had learned in school out in the real world as my career, but it was an eye opener after graduation. A friend of mine spent several years at Fleming getting a couple of different Diplomas, but same thing, minimal paying jobs. He is now working for a Tree service company and is happy with his job (Not sure about his pay though) Funny side story, on my Fish I.D. test I put 'Musky' down instead of the technical name 'Muskellunge' and had to fight with the teacher to give me the marks. He knew that I knew what fish it was, he was just busting my chops Good times!

SO True! haha Good luck in your search! Tony

I personally like the Humminbird finders, check out some of the colour models (585c as an example) Tony

Yeah! If you're not first, you're last! Tony

Right here in Ontario, Canada we have the largest, longest running fishing tournament in the World! (I am pretty sure anyway) Agreed, there is no major Bassmasters series, or PWT series but you can't argue with over a million bucks in cash and prizes up for grabs. Tony

That sounds like a great invention

You can't 'create demand' unless you start implanting diamonds into fish to give non-anglers a monetary reason to go 'sit by a lake and stare at a bobber' I think the only way to increase participation is by providing rewarding angling experiences for new individuals on their terms. This is where most people ruin it for newcomers...They introduce someone new to fishing by doing it their way (cause that is the way they enjoy fishing themselves) and by not taking into consideration what could be fun for the newcomer. In general the best bet is to provide opportunities where quantity outweighs quality, especially for kids, and then take it from there. If the person has had their fill in 2hrs and you normally fish for a minimum of 4, let it go, and recognize that they are happy at that point. If you force them to stay, they are going to remember their experience as less enjoyable since they had to stay longer than their interest could afford. Maybe next time they will want to stay a bit longer. If you have to put your rod down for the day, to provide assitance, give tips, etc then so be it, but remember it's about having fun! Tony

Oh man, I'd be filling a bucket!! with 5 of those tasty little guys.

What the...I was going to ask the same question about Rabidness DouG? Great minds think alike Welcome shoreman! I live in Burlington and also fish mostly for salmonids in the area, see you on the water! Tony

Nice! Did they re-inforce the new ones Tony

Congrats man! what a relief eh? I can't wait to close on the right house sooner than later. Then I can get the boat! Tony

This is becoming more and more popular as stream degradation continues it's toll on the Steelhead populations along the N. Shore tributaries of Lake Ontario. Why fish 12 hours here for a handful of fish when you can drive 4, fish for 8, and catch 10 times the numbers of fish available across the border? I haven't gone myself yet, but I plan on it in the near future. Can you imagine that they welcome and accomodate anglers in the U.S.? we should take note. They create more public access, rather than eliminate it (our current practice in urban Ontario) Tony

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There seems to be some kind of trend with OFC'ers appearing on Getting Hooked w/ Aaron and Barry. Don (iceguyd) McCaw certainly ranks as one of the more experienced hardwater anglers on Lake Simcoe, and I'm sure he will be instrumental in putting some fish onto the ice! (I know I can use all the tips possible, since I failed to achieve my goal of catching a Whitefish through the ice this past hardwater season. ) This Sunday is the last episode of the show for 2007, enjoy it while it lasts! I think they keep the episodes available on-line still so if you can't tune in on Sunday on OLN @ 8:30 or 10:30am you can download the shows at your convenience. Oops, here is the link for downloading the episodes - http://www.gettinghooked.net/Episodes.htm (That's me in Episode 12! lol) Tony

Happy belated Neighbour! I'll have a cold one for you tonight during the game. Tony

Great news!!!! Thank you CRAA and OFAH! More proof that we as anglers can achieve results if we work together toward common goals. Tony

Carp freak! lol Tony

That's the whole point though Terry - you are worried about the mere thought of it and you abide by the regulations. Now imagine if you were a poacher considering a fishing trip out of season - no way in you're sane mind would you attempt it MNR Outlaws all the way I'd have no problem seeing an MNR officer roll up in an Cadillac Escalade, about time they made some real money Tony

Cisco, maybe you are right, maybe I should put someone else to task who's job it is to find homes for people. I am just not sure if agents would really go to that distance, I would seriously not want me as a client if I was a realtor. The logic in us selling privately was to pass along the savings and enjoyable experience that we got when we purchased our home privately (Bank appraisal was thousands more than we paid - I have heard bank appraisals are generally less than selling prices?) Tony

You lucky dogs living out in the country with your big lots, mature trees, and cheaper housing. I am truly envious! As for me, in the GTA, I am limited to the cheap, thrown together houses, or 20-30yr old homes in relatively original state. The older houses you speak of with big lots, are $400,000.00 and up in price, just out of reach. Custom homes would be anywhere from $500,000.00-$1,000,000.00 when you factor in purchasing a lot with a home on it, and tearing it down in order to build the new one. There just isn't free space that hasn't been purchased for high density housing purposes or retail outlets in the area. Tony

Sure... Barrie can afford to do whatever it wants. The fact remains that it is within commuting distance to T.O. and that means people will put up with pretty much anything in order to live in that range. In Burlington there is a pork processing plant, yep I can smell pig feces when the wind blows a certain way fresh baked cookies (Voortman) when it blows the other way... Milton has a large mushroom plant, you can bet that smells pretty darn good too, Hamilton-nuff said, , yet people still live there and they build homes within a stones throw of these places. Any patch of land reflects $$ for businesses. Tony

I still think that the MNR should consider commission based C.O.'s. Since it is evident the MNR has no money...make the salary $10,000 a year. But then, the C.O.'s are given a percentage of every fine, say 50% in addition to all the gear they could seize and keep themselves or sell if it was involved in a bust. Do you think we would have more fines laid (not to mention maximum fines dished out), in addition to more officers afield? I think so...and poachers would realize it isn't worth losing their truck that towed the S.S. Poacher (also seized) or losing their house that contained the freezer full of Musky fillets and Aurora trout caviar. Ebay would have to create a portal for all these officers to be able to get rid of all the gear, and we would get some sweet deals! mnr.lol.ebay.com Seriously! Tony

Darn! Carp bait will go up in price Tony