northernpike56 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) I'm going to Bobcaygeon this weekend from Saturday to Monday, and want to try to catch my first musky there this year. I have heard the Kawartha lakes (especially Pigeon) are a great place to start. I'm not looking for a huge 50 incher, more like something around 3 ft.My rod and tackle are as follows:8'0 H spinning combo spooled with 30 lb Sufix 832100 lb fluorocarbon leaders6" grandma10" jake2x mepps bucktail spinnermusky sized spinnerbaitall the proper release tools (hook cutters, 10" needlenose pliers, rubber coated landing net, etc.)If theres anything else you think I need, please leave a reply.Are there any specific spots on Pigeon Lake where one would have a 'good' chance of catching a smaller sized musky? If you'd feel better, shoot me a PM. I purchased an Adventure Fishing Map of the lake, while not the greatest, it does give me a general idea of the location of most major structural points on the lake.Are there any 'special' artificials that seem to produce well on Pigeon?If you don't know the lake, or don't want to give up any spots, could you at lease give me some ideas of where to start looking for them? I've heard they like pencil reeds and weedlines, so I will look for those and cast my bucktails to them.Anyhow, even if I don't catch any muskie, I will still have a lot of fun catching bass and perch.Thanks,Matt. Edited February 19, 2013 by northernpike56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Try around the gannon narrows bridge and around big island in 8 to 10 feet of water. The baits look good but the rod and line are a bit on the weka side.Your set up will handle the 30 to 38 inch class but if you catch a 40 plus fish, you will have a fight on your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Nelson Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 i would suggest getting some 65 lb braid. Yes, you can catch Musky on 30 lb, but it wont stand up to the abuse of bigger lures, or bigger fish. Spinnerbaits are a great choice when looking for active fish. If they arent responding, then try the grandma with a " twitching" retrieve. Trolling the Jake is an option as well. Find the structure on your map, and troll around it. Buying a bulldawg or other soft plastics would be a good idea as well. ( medium size dawg for that combo) There is no way to control what size Musky you might catch... Although on average, the southern half holds smaller skis ( and pencil weeds) Most importantly, if you want to catch one, put in the time. First one is the hardest, but stick it out. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernpike56 Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 6000 size. 300 yds of line. I'm still learning to use a baitcaster (don't own one, borrow my uncles/friends sometimes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernpike56 Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 And shouldent the smaller ones (30-36") be easier to catch because they aren't targeted as much, are more aggresive, and more abundant than, let's say a 48" fish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STJ Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I also think you are light on the tackle, It would be fine for walleye which there are also lots in Pigeon but having said that it is not uncommon to have a musky take a walleye on the way in. Great fun.... not much left of the walleye after that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 You can't target a specific size. Even small skis will whack big baits, and big ones will take small baits. There are more in the 30-38 range simply due to age. Good luck... If you hook up it'll turn into an ob$e$ion!!! I haven't even caught one yet and am getting into the addiction! Still need a good sized net and boat though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I'm thinking,a 12" steel leader and use your drag.Don't fight it hard.You'll get it in. Many people have fished for bass with less than you have, and still brought it in.Patience is what you'll need. Good luck. Oh by the way my late grandma on deer lake caught a 45" musky on 8lb mono years ago with a spin cast reel. Not recommended ,but she got it in with a little help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehg Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Fished around the northeast side Big Island for 30 yrs. Have caught mostly 32-38 inch fish, some up to 45 inch. Huge fish aren't abundant there since perch and walleye don't fatten them up. Spinnerbaits and bucktails work best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernpike56 Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Exactly. I have got close to 30" pike on a 1000 sized reel and a UL (crappie setup) and I got in, but it was tricky. Took lots of time but I got it in so I could do it with musky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Exactly. I have got close to 30" pike on a 1000 sized reel and a UL (crappie setup) and I got in, but it was tricky. Took lots of time but I got it in so I could do it with musky. Yes!!,it is possible. still like the steel leader,Sinclair why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 You want to avoid a long drawn out fight, or you run the risk of killing the fish. Heavier braid, clamp down your drag, and yank'er in if you get one. Peeling drag and long runs is not a good way to compensate for lighter gear. That's the new way of thinking. Still many catch them by accident,and I'm sure they would survive with proper release care! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Steel leaders are more likely to damage the fish if (when) it rolls in the net. Why don't you like fluoro? No reason, not that familiar with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 And the truth comes out Obviously you no more than me, just my honest 2 cents worth:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Not trying to say I do... Give fluoro a try next time you go it for pike, you might be pleasantly surprised. I may, every weekend I fish for pike and bass. Never use a leader just 8/30 pp with a swivel clasp and out of approximately 35 pike,haven't lost one spinner bait or lure. Luck probably. Musky on the other hand a little more toothy. That's why I suggested a leader. Fluro? maybe. NP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live2fish85 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) Good luck up there. Edited September 4, 2012 by Live2fish85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) Need to pick up some 6lb fluro for my river fishing. Will be my first time using it. Do you think 100lb is a little heavy for musky?. Does diameter play into their sight? Edited September 4, 2012 by davey buoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Nelson Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 That's the new way of thinking. Still many catch them by accident,and I'm sure they would survive with proper release care! Water temps are still warm, and a drawn out fight would more than likely kill the fish... especially with a newbie who doesnt have the practice in releasing them quickly. Yes, they can be caught on light tackle, but its a bad idea. If you catch them on light tackle while targeting other species, then not much you can do but your best to release them quickly. Just because they slowly swim off doesnt mean they wont be dead within 24 hrs.... Delayed mortality....happens more than we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dontcryformejanhrdina Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Need to pick up some 6lb fluro for my river fishing. Will be my first time using it. Do you think 100lb is a little heavy for musky?. Does diameter play into their sight? I use 150# mono leaders, I don't think they care. I've even caught bass on that setup. I mean, the lures have huge hooks dangling off them, and that doesn't seem to deter the fish from striking at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dontcryformejanhrdina Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I second upping your line to at least 65# just so you don't lose your lures from casting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I second upping your line to at least 65# just so you don't lose your lures from casting. Good point!,the lures can cost as much or more than the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernpike56 Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 How far off the shore of Big Island should I be trolling? 30 ft? and would the little bobcaygeon river mouth also be a good place to fish for musky? I caught a lot of bass and panfish there, so there could be musky lurking around there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Nelson Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 How far off the shore of Big Island should I be trolling? 30 ft? and would the little bobcaygeon river mouth also be a good place to fish for musky? I caught a lot of bass and panfish there, so there could be musky lurking around there? Most arent gonna give you the exact fish locations.... Big island is huge, so focus on the structures closest to the island. A little mapwork will point you towards the best locations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernpike56 Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Most arent gonna give you the exact fish locations.... Big island is huge, so focus on the structures closest to the island. A little mapwork will point you towards the best locations Fair enough, thanks for the tip. I've been looking at my map for a few mins and have a couple ideas of where to try on the western side.. I'm not going to go into the back channel at all, way too many hazards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 nothing wrong with steel leaders if that's what you have, they are more bite proof than 500# fluoro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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