rylan Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 Anyone here going to trust the vaccination? Who is going to take it?
2 tone z71 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 nope, ill take my chances without it
Greencoachdog Posted September 14, 2009 Report Posted September 14, 2009 I'm not a Wuss, I'll take the shot and my seasonal flu shot as well... I really really despise being sick!!! I consider anyone that doesn't get their shots as ignorant!!! Last year I took 3 shots all at the same time... seasonal flu, pnuemonia, and tetnaus... I'm good to go for another 4 years on my pnuemonia and 9 years on my tetnaus!
Bob Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 If I remember correctly, the last time swine flu reared it's ugly head, (1976?) the vaccine killed way more people than the bug did. I've never had a flu shot and I haven't been laid low by a flu type virus in as long as I can remember. I'll take me chances... Seems the CMA is warning about side effects such as Guillain-Barre syndrome with this vaccine, same thing that caused the problems last time. Something to do with the adjuvants they use to boost the effectiveness. If this flu turns into something like what hit in 1918 that killed many millions and the vaccine saves a few more than it kills, then I guess I could be wrong.... I still think I'll take my chances. My mother had a flu shot once and she was sick as a dog all that winter, I'll pass thanks.
Greencoachdog Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 I am really amazed at the excuses people come up with to keep from being stuck with a little needle!!! I would much rather have the small flu shot that goes in your shoulder than the huge antibiotic and steroid shots that go in your buttocks when you get sick! It's like misery squared, not only are you sick but you must also endure the huge injections below the equator!!! The only thing I can figure is that some people really like the sympathy they get when they get sick... I can do without the sympathy and the sickness!!!
holdfast Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 And there I was in the middle of the Desert in Iraq and I was told to take this Huge Pill every Tuesday in case of Malaria. Never did see a Mosquito, I took it once. When we got back six months later, it was only then that they told us it could cause Cancer. For that matter maybe Gulf War Syndrome. I was glad I disobeyed orders then, but then again, very rarely did I ever see a doctor, unless broken bones, or lose time off work. 25 Years in the Military, I missed half a day, only because I was drunk in a Hotel Room. But I payed for that one losing some cash and five weekends of extra duties. Na, not going to take flu shots, but Ive had a lot of needles in my day, every time I went overseas, felt like a pin cushion. KNOCK ON WOOD though
Greencoachdog Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 25 Years in the Military, I missed half a day, only because I was drunk in a Hotel Room. But I payed for that one losing some cash and five weekends of extra duties. Yeah, we call that an "article 15" in the U.S.! ... I figured you'd have had more than one ... if you don't get your shots.... don't whine on the board that you're sick and it sucks!!!... go tell your wife or Momma!
StoneFly Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 I'm not a Wuss, I'll take the shot and my seasonal flu shot as well... I really really despise being sick!!! I consider anyone that doesn't get their shots as ignorant!!! Last year I took 3 shots all at the same time... seasonal flu, pnuemonia, and tetnaus... I'm good to go for another 4 years on my pnuemonia and 9 years on my tetnaus! but now the Aliens can track your every move...Lol
jaydub Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 No flu shot for me...and it's nothing to do with a stupid little needle, I'd give blood in a heart beat. Of the people I know it seems that way more that get these shots get sick than those that don't.
StoneFly Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 No flu shot for me...and it's nothing to do with a stupid little needle, I'd give blood in a heart beat. Of the people I know it seems that way more that get these shots get sick than those that don't. And thats with the Placebo effect (50%),..problem is the vaccines get rushed out. Also the whole concept of Vaccine was to help with Massive pandemics that were killing millions, so if you save a million and kill 100,000 from the vaccine, thats good I think. However if you kill 100,000 and save none,...thats bad I think. We all know what a Vaccine is,..a 'dead' strain of the same virus that kills you. Problem there is with mutation and entoro/retro viruses that evolve faster than we can keep up and can survive conditions we fail to understand. No Offence to our buds on the south side,..but we up here think a little more for ourselves, than what Big Bad Daddy Sam tells us to do. Oh say can you seee....Lol Seriously No offence, I think its a culture thing. Just wash your hands and sneeze on your sleeve and dont nuzzle others sleeves,..lol Needles are for giving Blood, when your sick and smack...Lol
rylan Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Posted September 16, 2009 Bob, you are so right and thank you for sharing that information. Everyone needs to research everything before they put anything in there bodies. Whatever happened to the OLD eat healthy, get some exercise -- wash your hands. and PLEASE everyone needs to remember that there are companies out there right now foaming at the mouth with all the PROFITS they think they are going to make over this... And crap -- they have not even tested the vaccine. Wake UP PEOPLE
Ziki Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Yup, don't see why our friend from the south thinks it has anything to do with the needle, or wanting to get sick (I almost find that insulting). I give blood on a regular basis and have also never had a flu shot.
rylan Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Posted September 16, 2009 We all know what a Vaccine is,..a 'dead' strain of the same virus that kills you. Problem there is with mutation and entoro/retro viruses that evolve faster than we can keep up and can survive conditions we fail to understand. Dude--- look at a company called BAXTER- it is run by Don Rumsfled. You know the guy that was on National TV on Sept 10/01 saying that there was 2.3 TRILLION dollars missing from the Pentagons budget, then the very next day a plane smashes into the Accounting department of the "pentagon" -----uuummmmm There are two types of vaccines-- those with and those without the live strain- this is of course so they can infect more thereby making more MONEY and then they can say -- "you see its justified" And if you look hard enough you will even find that BAYER- actually sold the LIVE virus of --- wait for it----AIDS... thats right they sold the live strain to 3rd world countries so they did not have to throw it out-- they made money off of that. Boy and girls-- we live in a time where money and profit RULES, and the psycho paths of today do not care about you or your family --they care about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2 tone z71 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 just look where its coming from ,enough said
Greencoachdog Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Go ahead and make up the excuses!!!... a bigger bunch of chicken squats I've never seen!!! I give blood, I give blood... but I'm terrified of an injection!!! .. many years from now, you will grow older and wiser... and you will realize I speak the truth!!! ... until then, you can hide behind you extremely lame excuses for not getting the injection! ... maybe it has something to do with Canadas health care system???
bigfish1965 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Getting my flu shots like every year. My mother is on meds for rheumatoid arthritis which purposely suppress her immune system. I don't care if I get it, but I don't want to risk giving it to her.
douG Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 (edited) I think the real problem is lack of critical thinking skills. The idea that multinational pharmaceutical companies intentionally infect the world populace to create a market for their products is A GREAT IDEA!!!1!!1 ZOMG!!1!!!!! Another example: If I remember correctly, the last time swine flu reared it's ugly head, (1976?) the vaccine killed way more people than the bug did. If you want anyone to believe anything you say, back that up. Cite proof, or stop it. That's crap, and has no place here. Edited September 16, 2009 by douG
Harrison Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Same here Rick, though it is my lil girls. I take the Go Train to work, the less I can bring home, the better.
Greencoachdog Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Getting my flu shots like every year. My mother is on meds for rheumatoid arthritis which purposely suppress her immune system. I don't care if I get it, but I don't want to risk giving it to her. That's one of the main things Rick "O"... if I get it, who am I going to give it to???... loved ones/family?... friends?... coworkers? ... maybe someone here has children that go to daycare or work in a daycare center, how would they feel if they gave it to their child and then it was spread amongst the other children in the daycare center?... or even worse, a daycare center worker exposing the children they are supposed to be taking care of to the disease!!! Think about it!!!
bigfish1965 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Same here Rick, though it is my lil girls. I take the Go Train to work, the less I can bring home, the better. I work in a casino...the meeting place of all viruses...lol I have a very strong immune system, but that would not stop me from carrying the virus to someone else, like my mother, who does not. So maybe y'all might want to think about your kids or parents or grandparents and wonder if they can survive influenza. It kills tens of thousands of people in North America every year.
Greencoachdog Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 I work in a casino...the meeting place of all viruses...lolI have a very strong immune system, but that would not stop me from carrying the virus to someone else, like my mother, who does not. So maybe y'all might want to think about your kids or parents or grandparents and wonder if they can survive influenza. It kills tens of thousands of people in North America every year. ... but... but!!!... we're skeered squatless of an itty bitty little needle!!!
jaydub Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 I consider anyone that doesn't get their shots as ignorant!!! Ignorance From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Ignorance is the state in which one lacks knowledge, is unaware of something or chooses to subjectively ignore information. This should not be confused with being unintelligent, as one's level of intelligence and level of education or general awareness are not the same. The word "Ignorant" is an adjective describing a person in the state of being unaware. I'm not claiming to be an expert on this subject as I'm definitely NOT. What I do know is several people that choose to study up on this subject unbiasly (if that's a word) and all tend to come to the same conclusion that Monsterman seems to have come to. It's ALL about the almighty $$$$$$ folks.
Fishnwire Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 And there I was in the middle of the Desert in Iraq and I was told to take this Huge Pill every Tuesday in case of Malaria. Never did see a Mosquito, I took it once. When we got back six months later, it was only then that they told us it could cause Cancer. For that matter maybe Gulf War Syndrome. I was glad I disobeyed orders then, but then again, very rarely did I ever see a doctor, unless broken bones, or lose time off work. 25 Years in the Military, I missed half a day, only because I was drunk in a Hotel Room. But I payed for that one losing some cash and five weekends of extra duties. Na, not going to take flu shots, but Ive had a lot of needles in my day, every time I went overseas, felt like a pin cushion. KNOCK ON WOOD though Wow. holdfast can relate this thread to an experience he had in the military. What are the chances?
Greencoachdog Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 (edited) IgnoranceFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Ignorance is the state in which one lacks knowledge, is unaware of something or chooses to subjectively ignore information. This should not be confused with being unintelligent, as one's level of intelligence and level of education or general awareness are not the same. The word "Ignorant" is an adjective describing a person in the state of being unaware. I'm not claiming to be an expert on this subject as I'm definitely NOT. What I do know is several people that choose to study up on this subject unbiasly (if that's a word) and all tend to come to the same conclusion that Monsterman seems to have come to. It's ALL about the almighty $$$$$$ folks. Your definition hit the nail on the head!!! ... but as far as the almighty $$$ goes, isn't health care free in Canuckia???... I compare it to the "free" military health care I was subjected to for the first 17 yrs. of my life, ok... but nothing to brag aboot!... if the doc was really worth a squat, wouldn't he have a private practice instead of being a Major in the military??? A few years ago they came out with a bulletin "Military Health Care May Be Hazardous to Your Health"!!!.. Duh???... Really??? Edited September 16, 2009 by GCD
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