Terry Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 ok to start with, it's cold out there I got up this morning, and my driveway was plowed in by the time I finished I was cold and back hurt, so I whimped out and will try fishing tomorrow so don't bug me about whimping out...LOL back to the question in hand I was watching bob izumi and gord pyzer fishing in ontario for pike with quick strike rigs with 2 treble hooks which I read as being illegal on live bait rigs gord is ex MNR, he should know????????????????????????? now I am thinking, they feel that because it has a couple of small spinners on it, it becomes a lure and each treble then is counted as one hook but I have been told that that does not count...what ya think poor quality but I think you can see it <embed width="448" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://i25.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid25.photobucket.com/albums/c52/Mrbeee1954/bob.flv"> feel free to jump in Bob, Gord
Spiel Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 ...Attaching a spinner makes it a lure which makes it legal.
Terry Posted January 24, 2009 Author Report Posted January 24, 2009 I was also told that adding live bait to a lure, you then have to count each point as a single hook..... I had a mepps spinner with a treble, I added a stinger treble hook and live bait a guy at the camp I was at said the MNR told him he had to remove the treble and put a single hook if adding live bait I really wish the MNR would all read from the same book so we had the same rules with every CO out there
Greencoachdog Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) Only 4 baited hook points are legal in Canada eh? A jig is a lure, what is it when you tip it with a minnow?... 1 baited hook point?... or is it still a lure? If the quick strike rig was made up of 1 single and a treble it would be completely legal. Edited January 24, 2009 by GCD
Spiel Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 I really wish the MNR would all read from the same book so we had the same rules with every CO out there ....That there is certainly a problem. I believe it was Raf who said that different CO's have different views and/or interpretation's.
kickingfrog Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 Another point to consider is that in Northwestern Ontario they may just slip over the border and be fishing in Minnesota waters. That might change the regs as well. As stated though... interpretation.
Terry Posted January 24, 2009 Author Report Posted January 24, 2009 oh sure, confuse the issue LOL I think they said they were in sunset country and I think that implies north west ontario.... I would really like a clear and forever and by every CO firm answer
DANIMAL Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) I'm pretty sure that in the old regs, adding a blade makes it a lure. But in the new regs it sounds to me like you are allowed to use 4 hooks per line wether they are trebles, singles,or used with bait or a lure. Edited January 24, 2009 by DANIMAL
Moosebunk Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 Watched that this morning too. Gord sure has a knack for stretching his fish. Don't much care whether it's legal or not... the rig suspends bait horizontal for a better presentation but... twice a hook got caught on the bottom of the hole and Bob had to dislodge it with his scoop, and twice did a fish come up with that second treble burried in the back of it's head. Now I don't imagine these guys are going barbless, and that second treble could just as easily be stuck in an eye next time. Not sure I like those rigs... would have to try the old way vs that style in waters with some depth. That's where the horizontal presentation likely outshines a slightly more vertically dead quickstriked rig.
Terry Posted January 24, 2009 Author Report Posted January 24, 2009 you are correct the new regs. just state 4 hooks per line but as many COs have said the regs we read are a summary of the complete regulations and not all laws or info are included in the summary but apply to all
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