Rich Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 I keep reading it in all your reports. I'm sure you've explained before, but I musta missed it. What in WGSF's name is a Sabiki rig?
Greencoachdog Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 (edited) Let me see if I can dig you up a pic Rich... may take a few minutes.... Ok, this is an illustration Only 4 hok rigs are legal in Ontario if you bait them. I use a 1-2 oz. bottom bouncer or rattle weight instead of a pyramid sinker. This is the actual size of the #6 light wire hook: That tiny hook (or one just like it) has pulled in these and many more fish: Edited July 18, 2008 by Greencoachdog
Rich Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Posted July 18, 2008 Interesting. A little smaller hooks and I bet that would be a deadly Lake Erie perch rig! Thanks eh.
Greencoachdog Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 Interesting. A little smaller hooks and I bet that would be a deadly Lake Erie perch rig! Thanks eh. I caught this Perch on one at the BOQ last year: Baited with live minnows: ... and fished straight down, dropshot style in about 20 fow... they're deadly! You never know what you're going to pull up next when you're fishin' with one of those things.
Greencoachdog Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 Could be good off of a tip-up. I'd have one on the tip-up and one on the jigging rod thru the ice, you can get away with a 1/2 oz weight with no wind and current.
wallyboss Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 Do you buy those already setup like that or do you make your own.
Greencoachdog Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 I buy them premade from Cabelas or Basspro online: http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/template...&hasJS=true They're made in Japan and they really have then down to a science! The hook, jig head, and the line are fused together, and I've never had a dropper knot/mainline fail.
Greencoachdog Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 I'll have to order some thanks GCD You're welcome WB! ... just remember the hooks are light wire, so set the drag on your reel accordingly.
lunkerbasshunter Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 GCD is it me or are those sme HUGE crappies! Looks liek a decent set up you got going there. Do you always use live bait down there? Cheers!
Greencoachdog Posted July 19, 2008 Report Posted July 19, 2008 GCD is it me or are those sme HUGE crappies! Looks liek a decent set up you got going there. Do you always use live bait down there? Cheers! It's not just you, those are some 14 & 15" 2lb+ Crappies. I fish with lures too, but I always use live bait on the Sabiki Rigs... it's just too dang hard for those fish to resist a small school of wounded minnows!
Cudz Posted July 19, 2008 Report Posted July 19, 2008 How many hooks are we allowed on one line up here?
Greencoachdog Posted July 19, 2008 Report Posted July 19, 2008 How many hooks are we allowed on one line up here? 4 baited, 6 unbaited
douG Posted July 19, 2008 Report Posted July 19, 2008 This is the same rig used in PEI for mackerel and cod. Two flies are used, baited or not, and a BIG weight, somewhere around 3 oz. No handlines or cod jigs anymore. I don't think that they call it Sabiki tho.
Greencoachdog Posted July 19, 2008 Report Posted July 19, 2008 This is the same rig used in PEI for mackerel and cod. Two flies are used, baited or not, and a BIG weight, somewhere around 3 oz. No handlines or cod jigs anymore. I don't think that they call it Sabiki tho. Did they call it a Hayabusa rig douG? They have a 2 hook rig inthe Hayabusa style (bottom of the list) http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/template...&hasJS=true
jace Posted July 19, 2008 Report Posted July 19, 2008 I used to catch a ton of herring on these things. what a blast. For schooling fish, you have to resist pulling in on the first taker. Usually leaving it down for a while longer allows 3 or 4 fish to get on and then you're in for some weird fighting. like dogfish fights. Like somebody said, you cna't horse these in because the hooks and traces are usually very light compared to the main line..
Cudz Posted July 19, 2008 Report Posted July 19, 2008 4 baited, 6 unbaited I went on the MNR website just to double check Under Gear Restrictions this is what is written A fishing line must not have more than four hooks attached. A hook includes a single-pointed or multiple-pointed hook on a common shaft but does not include a snagger or spring gaff. The number of hooks includes any single-pointed or multiple-pointed hooks that are part of a lure. I think I will keep it at 4 and cut the other 2 off just to be safe
Bly Posted July 19, 2008 Report Posted July 19, 2008 If you are looking to get some local, Hammerhead Lures has them Sabiki Rigs
Greencoachdog Posted July 19, 2008 Report Posted July 19, 2008 I went on the MNR website just to double checkUnder Gear Restrictions this is what is written A fishing line must not have more than four hooks attached. A hook includes a single-pointed or multiple-pointed hook on a common shaft but does not include a snagger or spring gaff. The number of hooks includes any single-pointed or multiple-pointed hooks that are part of a lure. I think I will keep it at 4 and cut the other 2 off just to be safe You're absolutely correct Cudz! That was my mistake on the 6 hooks. I always use the rigs baited, so 4 hooks in Canada. Before using the 6 hook rig in Canada, I clip off the 2 top hooks because about 90% of the fish are caught on the bottom 4 hooks when I fish a 6 hook rig here in Alabama. As bly mentioned, Hammerhead Lures sells the 4 hook rigs locally up there, and Hayabusa brand also makes a 4 hook rig. These rigs are heavier and work well when the water is stained and/or the fish are actively feeding... but when the water is clear and/or the fish are finicky, the light Daiichi goes on the rod.
Whopper Posted July 19, 2008 Report Posted July 19, 2008 Interesting. A little smaller hooks and I bet that would be a deadly Lake Erie perch rig! Thanks eh. Rich we use something real similar for the perch on Erie only we hand tie our own #4 or #6 hooks and bait with lake shiners, usually do three hooks max. When the perch are really on the feed we will catch a lot of doubles and even a triple occasionally
Rich Posted July 19, 2008 Author Report Posted July 19, 2008 So do I Whopper, I've always tied the hooks direct on the line for added sensitivity and less chance of deep-hooked fish. Works great, but I like the dressings on those hooks. I think that would be great if there's a slight stain. I've also experimented when drift fishing for perch by putting small colorado blades on pickerel rigs. Works great in rough water.
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