funny .......... at the time i was trying to come up with a way to keep the gobies from getting on and once i had the hook small enough the bites stoped all together , i never thought about getting the hook to set tho , there were other times when i had fish marking with nothing other then nibbles and open the hooks and got action ........... now i am a guy who has minumal tackle in the box and who is learning from the bottom up and trying to still keep it fun for my self with out running to the tackle shop and spending a fortune to have what the pro's have , still i am not stupid to learn that yes there are some things you can't do with out , i am not sure how to spell the next word i'd like to use and maybe i can .. utillize is what i like to do with whats in the tackle box if you will .