OutdoorDan

Yes, turns out I was right about what the problem was. The part itself is something like 120$ and there's lots of labour involved. The temperature sensor is part of the whole fuel pump unit, you have to get under the rear seat to get to it, lower the fuel tank, etc. I think part of the reason everything went pretty smooth today was because of the information I've gotten on everything at that point (reading the OBDII codes, researching how to do it so I know what's part of the process, etc.). Once you present them that you are aware of these things they start talking to you a little differently and much less likely to jerk you around. So for anyone with a similar crappy situation in the future (let's hope you won't be, but something or other always comes up) - take some time to do at least a little bit of research, the power of having more information could help you out lots.

Update: So, after 6 hours in the dealership they fixed it. I think I may have gotten lucky getting a friendly mechanic there on the case. Bill was ~400$, covered by the dealership. Warranty was to 60k so it had just expired. Fingers crossed that everything keeps working as it is now and no further issues. Thanks everyone for your help in this thread.

I got it from one of the Car Nation Canada locations. http://www.carnationcanada.com/ As far as I understand they are a Nissan dealer, among other makes. Vehicle has 75k on it, I would be very surprised if Nissan emissions warranties didn't go to 100k at least... I still don't understand why the dealership wouldn't just tell me to go to Nissan to get it fixed then. I guess I'll find out tomorrow, and update.

Yeah, the fuel temperature sensor is part of the whole fuel pump unit. I know that on the sedans you have to yank the rear sear out and go into the floor to access it, so it's labour intensive. And yeah, they are crooks. Which is exactly why people need to stand up for themselves in these situations. If I thought that this was unintentional I would be much less ticked off.

Sorry, I don't think I explained clearly. I'll be going back to the dealership where I bought the car. The service department is there.

Interesting, I didn't know that. In this case why wouldn't they just do the work no questions asked and get compensated for it through the manufacturer's warranty?

Wow, you nailed them. Great work!

If you have open cans/bottles of alcohol in your possession in the boat, it's going to be considered that you consumed them. Even if they are not open, you are not allowed to consume the alcohol in a public place (ex. in the middle of the lake in your boat). What happens in this case (if you are stopped and have unopened alcohol in the boat) depends on the circumstances. If you have a water-access cottage somewhere and are transporting unopened packages of alcohol there, you are going to be fine. Likewise, if you are going camping and have the proper equipment to stay overnight, you will be fine. If you are obviously just going out fishing for the day in your boat and have booze on hand, it's going to get sticky...

I'd like to see if I can get a positive outcome first before I go this route. All dealerships doing this to some extent doesn't make it right and also doesn't mean that I shouldn't do anything about it. You get 36 days for anything mechanical but I also got them so sign off on a 2-week comprehensive warranty before taking the car. I understand that is what they are hoping but I am not going away. It's also why I'm afraid of them just resetting everything which may actually buy them enough time before the light goes off again. As for buying a car with the warning light on, they said that they would fix anything that was wrong. I also knew that light had to do with the emissions systems, so figured it to be nothing major. To be safe I also got them to sign off on a 2-week comprehensive. Their willingness to do that suggested to me that it wasn't anything to worry about.

Big dealership that deals several makes including Nissan.

In Michael's defence, he mentioned more than once to be extremely careful and take the proper precautions. I do agree that reports of fishing on thin ice has the potential of leading to inexperienced people taking unnecessary risks, but at the same time reports like this are needed on a fishing forum and he presented the report in a responsible way.

I'll try to keep this as short as possible, please let me know if I need to provide any more details. I recently bought a used 2010 Nissan Armada. Before buying it I saw the the "Service Engine Soon" light was on, I brought this up with the dealership and they said that they would fix whatever issues before selling the car. When I picked up the car everything was fine, the mechanic told me that the code showing was from the vehicles history, that he manually cleared it and everything would be fine. This sounded plausible as I know you have to sometimes manually clear the codes even after fixing an issue. Fine. So fast forward into about an hour of driving, the light comes back on. I take the car home, put an OBDII reader to it and get two codes: P0181 and P0183. Did some research and I think (I have limited knowledge) the fuel temperature sensor is broken/acting up. It seems like a labour-intensive thing to fix. What I think happened is that the problem was acknowledged at the dealership, but since with this particular is likely very on/off they likely just cleared the codes without doing any work and hoped for the best. I have an appointment in their service department but my hopes are grim. The dealership is being very evasive and played a lot of ping-pong with me on the phone. In addition, there was a problem with a tire when I picked up the car - there was a leak in it and they tried to just top it off and leave it, but I noticed it was underinflated. Again, nobody wanted to do anything, eventually they did and it turned out that it was just a simple problem at the valve. I bring this up because it's relevant to how I perceive their attitude - their goal is to obviously put the least effort possible to "fix" whatever issue. I'm afraid that when I go tomorrow they are just going to continue jerking me around, reset the codes and do nothing. I'm really at a loss of what to do and really disappointed in the situation. It's a downer dealing with problems like this with an almost new car, and getting people to work on your car who don't want to might not lead to a great outcome either. What can I do to try for the best outcome? What is my best course of action tomorrow? What are my rights in a situation like this? I'm obviously quite ticked off at the situation but I just want a good outcome, not looking to give anyone a hard time. I figured there would be some handy guys here that could give advice. Thanks in advance.

With a body like that, you'd get really cold really fast ice fishing. Insulation has its benefits. Just saying.

Are you talking about the one near Apsley? I don't think you're going to get much about such a small lake on a public forum...

Some gorgeous fish and good camera work as well. Way to go.

Great report, thanks. Getting excited!

This Wednesday? Yikes! Looks like we are going to get hit by some cold on Wednesday and into Thursday night, so I'm hoping for something by the weekend.

That would be great! If it's not an option I can always bring my mighty tent. I've slept overnight in a tent ice-fishing before so it shouldn't be an issue.

Haha, irish, that's not what I meant! Although the image of me creepily camping out on Nip for a month waiting for everyone to show up for the GTG is very entertaining!

Thanks, Joey. I'd like to come up either way, but if we can drive onto the ice there is a good chance I will want to tough it out and stay on the ice overnight.

I'd love to come up. Are we going to be able to drive onto the ice?

That video ended in a cliffhanger.

Wow. Now that's gotta intimidate anyone else posting a 2011 recap! Congrats on a great year.

I'd bet it's a fiberglass rod, so I doubt anything will happen to it. These videos are really making me hate this weather!

Thanks for the link, otter. The Dec. 18th conditions make it look promising!