dave524

MB2 , I have an identical roaster, it's my downstairs oven, do the Thanksgiving Turkey and a big bone in ham for Christmas and Easter in it. Frees up the kitchen oven for all the other goodies

No problem Steve, I thought my original post was somewhat balanced, even though I dislike wind turbines, don't get me started on the cell phone towers that seem to litter the rural landscape as well , if it is not one it is the other going for a drive in the country anymore

I too suspected a rat , so I did research it and if you go back to my original post #30, I included a link to snopes where it says the actual time to recoup the initial expense could under ideal conditions could be as soon as 3 years or in a worst case scenario never. I also posted a Amazon link to the book and author of the quote, later, he appears to be legitimately concerned with emissions . The turbine farm that I see frequently stands motionless for the most part, leading me to believe it may be of the latter variety. Also 4 of the 5 turbines in this farm , according to a local citizen's group are in violation of setback guidelines. You failed to quote my whole post to suit your views.

MB2 at the end of WWII Canada had the 4th largest Navy and the 5th largest Airforce in the world. The biggest turning point, obvious to any one my age, is when Diefenbaker cancelled the Avro Arrow program in '58 I believe choosing the protection of the US ICBM's. ( Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles ). Air raid drills were as common as fire drills in schools back around the Cuban Missile Crisis, fun times, put your head between your legs and kiss your butt goodbye

He appears to a respected author on climate change and carbon emissions, just not a fan of wind turbines as a viable source of green energy http://www.amazon.ca/Carbon-Shift-Climate-Crisis-Change/dp/0307357198

The whole Canadian political system has been taking 2 steps to the left when the Liberals are in power and one step to the right when the Conservatives are in power, net result is the Conservative of today are yesterdays Liberals. At one time , free trade was a Liberal dream and Conservatives were a protectionist policy with duties and tariffs, buy Canadian mentality. Mulroney came on the scene and embraced free trade , suddenly the Liberals renounced the concept , same with the European style VAT value added tax which is basically our GST , again Mulroney taking a liberalized Euro approach to taxation and Chretien promising to abolish it in the infamous Red Book. Don't forget Jean Charest , the reddest Tory of them all , leader of the PC Party in the mid 90's who could without hesitation step over to lead the Quebec Liberals.

What do you call a basement full of liberals? A whine cellar. I'm sorry , but I couldn't help myself , yeah it's lame

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/each-countrys-share-of-co2.html#.ViL2TTZdHmQ

couple of very early Lightfoot songs, don't think they were ever commercially released, from a bootleg recording at " la Cave" in Cleveland in the early sixties http://www.bigomag.com/TRKSB1/GLcleve/GLcleve06.mp3 http://www.bigozine8.com/TRKSB1/GLcleve/GLcleve08.mp3 edit: click on the play button

naw , you mean this is not leader material

Trudeau will need a video to remember half the STUFF he promised buying votes , here ya go lookin

Wow, went to go to the Leafs game after baseball, finally found it on City TV , how weird is that.

Want to go green , stop buying made in China

You got to feel for Price, what is he 0 and 7 in the post season

If it is not broke, don't try to fix it

Seriously , the UN anymore is a case of the criminals running the justice system. Chretien was an embarrassment internationally, while Harper and Mulroney were respected.

https://www.facebook.com/ontariopc/videos/10153312175974107/

Where's Iggy now ? teaching at some Ivy League American University? Yeah, as a small c conservative all my life , Harper was not my first choice as leader, I was really hoping as maybe I previously said that when Mike Harris stepped down during his second term giving the reins to Ernie Eves it meant he was going to take a run at Federal politics, we can only wish that had been the case. A Trudy commercial just came on the baseball game about Harper dividing Canadians, maybe he should ask about how popular his old man was west of the Ontario / Manitoba border, talk about dividing a country.

If you read his resume b4 he entered politics it reads like a twenty something kid, no real jobs, dropped out of a couple university courses, all image and name. As a single pension retired couple we don't pay squat anymore in taxes with income splitting and old age deductions, feel sorry for the "anybody but Harper" crowd . Ontario I thought learned its lesson with the protest vote Rae government and Albertans are wishing they could have a redo with their protest vote. edit: in retrospect the Conservatives should have maybe convinced Ben Mulroney to run against him , a vote for Ben would make about sense as a vote for Justin, maybe more.

Back around 1980 I got a whole bunch of Andy Reeker spoons for next to nothing, I never knew why cause they had good siwash hooks on them with welded not split rings, fickle anglers I guess, probably got a ton of Lake Ontario salmon and trout on them.

Yeah , the truck driver was probably the only one who knew what was coming, I like how the cop drove in and then backed out quickly when a missile came his way.

I hunted a lot of those fields along Lake Erie 30 years ago for jacks, fox and coyotes. Lot of them have another source of energy just sitting there in the form of gas wells, some capped and some were still used on farms back then. I'd sooner see gas fired generators or steam power than turbines, it's a clean source and just sitting there

Wow , birds don't stand in the way of a wind turbine http://ontario-wind-resistance.org/2013/01/08/wind-turbine-company-nextera-mnr-destroy-bald-eagle-nest-habitat/

Remember Jean Chretien and his Red Book and the promise to abolish the GST , how did that work?? Oct. 29, 1990: "I am opposed to the GST. I have always been opposed to it, and I will always be opposed to it. It is a tax that is both regressive and discriminatory." - Liberal Leader Jean Chretien Nov. 19, 1990: "We will continue to oppose the GST and the tax won't be long in place when the Liberals win the next election." - Opposition Leader Herb Gray Feb. 11, 1993: "I say we will replace the tax. This is a commitment. You will judge me by that. If the GST is not gone, I will have a tough time the election after that." - Liberal Leader Jean Chretien 1993 - Liberal Party Red Book: "A Liberal government will replace the GST with a system that generates equivalent revenues, is fairer to consumers and to small business, minimizes disruption to small business, and promotes federal-provincial fiscal co-operation and harmonization."